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london
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posted 06-03-2011 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for london     send a private message to london   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by london
My Prowler should be here in a few days. I know this is a subjective question,but what is the preference on keeping the front bumpers or taking them off.Just kind of interested on the voting.
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posted 06-03-2011 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JRL     send a private message to JRL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by JRL
OFF!!
Mine (from years ago).
No fronts and smoothed and painted rears
Partially chromed and polished front end

This message has been edited by JRL on 06-03-2011 at 03:48 PM

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Before concerning yourself with public opinion, you may want to check with your insurance company. Some will not cover your car if you remove the front bumpers, others will not cover damages if you do because they will tell you damage was more extensive that it would have been had you still had the bumpers on your car. I believe I remember an owner here in So. Cal. telling me AAA was one company that wouldn't cover if the bumpers were removed, don't know that for a fact but I was told that by an an owner who has AAA. Congrats on the Kat, enjoy it and have fun this summer. By the way the bumpers were off the purple Kat we just traded and the bumpers are off the candy kat we still have.
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posted 06-03-2011 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
I VOTE OFF

mine have been off since sometime in 1999. Once I talked Tom Mills into producing the kit he had made for his Yellow Prowler

Love the look, hooks up just like factory and looks as if it came from the factory.

He paints them before shipping so they are ready to install.


He even has a rear pan that is designed to remove the rear bumpers too.

Check out Jefferson Auto/Tom Mills for more info

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posted 06-03-2011 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StingRay     send a private message to StingRay   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by StingRay
Like a tennis match, opinions will bounce back and forth on this one. I like the factory "designed" look with the bumpers on ... and on certain colors, that version is enhanced by painting them to match the car. The look without bumpers reminds me on the nose of an Indy car, which is cool too ... but then I go back to the "traditional look". The nice thing about that mod - you can always return it to original, or even, one month on, one month off!
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posted 06-03-2011 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fibertop     send a private message to fibertop   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by fibertop
I vote off.
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posted 06-03-2011 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GaryE     send a private message to GaryE   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GaryE
In the State of California you are required to have your front bumpers. I do not know any of our group that has ever had a ticket for missing front bumpers. Most of us have collector car insurance, which does not care if you have the front bumpers on your car. Go to my web site at www.prowlerproducts.com and check out what I have to offer. Also try and get together with us on one of our tech days and cruises. I hope to meet and see you in the near future.

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DES

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posted 06-03-2011 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DES     send a private message to DES   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DES
definitely w/ bumpers...
JRL

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posted 06-03-2011 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JRL     send a private message to JRL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by JRL
Do you really think the average insurance adjuster would even know if they had bumpers?
Car is 9-13 years old now!

I would keep my mouth shut and just insure it.
If someone ever said something just say "this is the way I bought it"!

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posted 06-03-2011 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JRL     send a private message to JRL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by JRL
quote:
Originally posted by StingRay:
Like a tennis match, opinions will bounce back and forth on this one. I like the factory "designed" look with the bumpers on ... and on certain colors, that version is enhanced by painting them to match the car. The look without bumpers reminds me on the nose of an Indy car, which is cool too ... but then I go back to the "traditional look". The nice thing about that mod - you can always return it to original, or even, one month on, one month off!

Prowler was designed WITHOUT bumpers, look at the prototype

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posted 06-03-2011 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EdsCat     send a private message to EdsCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by EdsCat
Off - instantly! Or, whatever looks good to you!

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posted 06-03-2011 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StingRay     send a private message to StingRay   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by StingRay
quote:
Originally posted by JRL:
Prowler was designed WITHOUT bumpers, look at the prototype


You could be right ... I was refering to the show car that made the circut in 1993, and that many of us got to see up close at the Prowler 10-year celeration at the Chrysler Museum. They are significantly more petite than production bumpers, but still in place none the less.

london
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posted 06-03-2011 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for london     send a private message to london   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by london
This is great information. And a lot of fun to hear evryones opinion. I am leaning off. The cars look great that way. Thanks to those who have sent pictures. Can't wait to get it.
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posted 06-03-2011 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Took mine off in 1999.
Marty Usher



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posted 06-03-2011 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
No bumpers, front fenders, wipers, visors, rock guards, hood badge, factory mirrors headlights or tailights either.

This message has been edited by Marty Usher on 06-03-2011 at 07:05 PM

Griff

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posted 06-03-2011 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Griff     send a private message to Griff   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Griff

No bumpers here.

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posted 06-03-2011 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xtreme prowler     send a private message to xtreme prowler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by xtreme prowler
none here either...

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posted 06-03-2011 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
the frt bumpers were put on by mopar to meet federal standards.takem off.

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posted 06-05-2011 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carguybill     send a private message to carguybill   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by carguybill
I've seen pictures of Kats with the bumpers painted body color and they look great and I've also seen photos with 'em off completely and they look great too.

Me? I'm going to remove mine and paint 'em body color and if I'm not satisfied I'll remove them completely.

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posted 06-06-2011 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
I prefer them on. I changed my 99 Black bumpers (grey) to the 2000 black bumpers. My Candy has painted bumpers. The Kid Car has no bumpers. Not my choice. Custom car that already had them removed.
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We wouldn't want the facts to get in the way here. The fact is that Prowler was designed with bumpers to meet Federal Crash Standards. The front bumpers have an aluminum substructure bolted to the frame. Typically, the bumpers are the first point of impact in a frontal collision. The impact signal they send triggers the air bags. Yes, impacting other areas of the car will trigger the bags, but timing is off and the bags deploy late, not as designed.

The time and distance traveled difference between impacting the bumper and driving the flexible front wheel structure rearward can make a critical difference in the bags deploying when needed. Crash events happen in milliseconds.

I've seen the development and work that went into making our cars as safe as they can be. Today manufacturers have made even greater gains in safety.

Let's see, would I want to be in a Prowler in the event of a severe accident or that hand built '34 Ford Hot Rod?

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Bob, I assume you work or worked for Chrysler. I never thought about air bag deployment before. With the bumpers on it looks like a chromed suspension would be a waste of money.
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I retired from Chrysler. I was on the Prowler Team from before the car was approved for production until we made the decision to cancel production. It was at that meeting that I committed to purchase the first Deep Candy Red car for CJ.
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I know someone that was pulling out to make a left turn when cross traffic clipped the right front bumper hard enough to push the outside corner toward the wheel about an inch. (You couldn't really tell it was hit at all except for a scrape on the bumper and comparing how close to the tires both bumpers were.) No airbag deployment took place. Does that mean they should have their airbag checked?
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posted 06-06-2011 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT

^^^ You can see the damage near the section close to where it mounts to the frame. Both sides cracked,,,,the weld on the left side split (hard to see in picture)[if you enlarge to 150% magnification, you can see the weld crack better]


I was parked at the bank for a few minutes to go inside for a transaction. I came out the door just in time to see an old timer (late 70's/early 80's) in his 70's model Ford p/u back into my front left bumper at appox. 2/3 mph ever so slow tap, and he drove forward and away as I was yelling at him ,,,,,to no avail. I was about 50/60 feet away, but with direct eye contact of the situation.

I replaced that front bumper, and skinned it to see the inside damage, since I knew it was structurally bent somewhat. I was surprised at how weak it was considering it was a 2/3 mph love tap that I seen. IMO, only, I see no advantage to leaving them on, they are terribly weak,,, but thats my personal choice. Others can disagree,,,,,thats their option, and I have no problem with that.

This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 06-06-2011 at 01:41 PM


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