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posted 08-31-2014 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Landscape Doctor     send a private message to Landscape Doctor   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Landscape Doctor

OK, working on installing my lift. How much do you guys think the suspension will sag when on a side post lift? I am thinking no more than 10" and at that I think it is a bit much. I need to put a trailer under the Prowler when it is on the lift.

This message has been edited by Landscape Doctor on 11-07-2015 at 08:12 PM

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as much as it wants to.you didnt say frt or rr.

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I need to put a trailer under the Prowler when it is on the lift. ?????
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I need to put a trailer under the Prowler when it is on the lift. ?????

I will clarify. When the Prowler is not in use I will be putting it on a lift because space is at a premium. A landscape trailer with a drop gate and equipment on it will be going under the Prowler. When the Prowler is on the lift the suspension will obviously sag because it will be lifted from the sides. There is a limited amount of space between the top of the trailer gate and the tires of the Prowler. How much does the suspension sag???

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Why not get the full lift that supports all four wheels
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How much does the suspension sag???

You could tell by jacking up a wheel and measuring the ground to frame distance, before and after.

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I have never measured the suspension travel of the prowler but I just put MW new wheels and tires on last week and I would say closer to five than ten inches.
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Originally posted by Efrem 72:
Why not get the full lift that supports all four wheels

I have had the lift for over 12 years and never installed it. I know slap me. I bought it at auction when the Penske's went out of business at the Kmart's. $625 out the door, I just had to disassemble it and bring it home.

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You could tell by jacking up a wheel and measuring the ground to frame distance, before and after.

I do not have a Prowler yet so I can not measure it. Getting prepared first.

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Originally posted by padroo:
I have never measured the suspension travel of the prowler but I just put MW new wheels and tires on last week and I would say closer to five than ten inches.

That is my thought also.

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Well looks like I am going to modify the lift 8"taller, if my math is correct that should give me 8"-10" between the trailer gate and the tires. Close call.
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Modify the trailer gate and use ramps on the trailer. To modify a lift would scare the "poop" out of me.
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It is definitely not a good idea to leave any car in the raised position on a two post lift long term. All the suspension bushings will be twisted to the full extended condition. Sell the lift now and spend the money on the right tool for the job.

I'll bet you don't cut lawn with a Sears riding mower.

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Modify the trailer gate and use ramps on the trailer. To modify a lift would scare the "poop" out of me.

That is what they make depends for, just kidding. Thank You for being concerned. All is well. Ordered lag bolts this am and re-organized the garage. Also set the lift were it is going and made a list of supplies needed to make the mod. Will take some pics when I do the mod and install.

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It is definitely not a good idea to leave any car in the raised position on a two post lift long term. All the suspension bushings will be twisted to the full extended condition. Sell the lift now and spend the money on the right tool for the job.

I'll bet you don't cut lawn with a Sears riding mower.



I know a couple of friends that do the same thing with a 2 post lift and have no issues.

A Sears lawn mower would not last one week. 13k for the mowers we use.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MDProwler:
[B]It is definitely not a good idea to leave any car in the raised position on a two post lift long term. All the suspension bushings will be twisted to the full extended condition. Sell the lift now and spend the money on the right tool for the job.

I'll bet you don't cut lawn with a Sears riding mower.



I know a couple of friends that do the same thing with a 2 post lift and have no issues.

A Sears lawn mower would not last one week. 13k for the mowers we use.[/B][/QUOTE]

You just made the point for me. Get the right equipment for the job. Ask any professional if they would do that. It's not that you can't but you shouldn't. If you screw up the bushings on the suspension a arms by leaving it up all winter the fix will cost more then the right lift.

Can you put the trailer on the lift and the cat under it. I think the Prowler is about 50" to the top edge of the windshield.

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Do you have a Prowler?
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Originally posted by MDProwler:
You just made the point for me. Get the right equipment for the job. Ask any professional if they would do that. It's not that you can't but you shouldn't. If you screw up the bushings on the suspension a arms by leaving it up all winter the fix will cost more then the right lift.

Can you put the trailer on the lift and the cat under it. I think the Prowler is about 50" to the top edge of the windshield.



I just did some research and found tire engaging adapters for a 2 post lift. I will pick up a set.
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Do you have a Prowler?

Not yet

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Originally posted by Landscape Doctor:
Well looks like I am going to modify the lift 8"taller, if my math is correct that should give me 8"-10" between the trailer gate and the tires. Close call.

Can't you back the trailer under with the gate down and then put it back up once you clear the wheels? The prowler isn't very long. Less than 13 feet if I remember correctly.

Another thing you can do is take the wheels off the prowler when it's up in the air. You won't have any problem with the suspension on a 2 post. It's also a good opportunity to detail the wheels and other hard to get at parts, calipers etc when the wheels are off.

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Can't you back the trailer under with the gate down and then put it back up once you clear the wheels? The prowler isn't very long. Less than 13 feet if I remember correctly.

Another thing you can do is take the wheels off the prowler when it's up in the air. You won't have any problem with the suspension on a 2 post. It's also a good opportunity to detail the wheels and other hard to get at parts, calipers etc when the wheels are off.



Trailer is in and out constantly, trying to make things simple.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MDProwler:
[B] You just made the point for me. Get the right equipment for the job. Ask any professional if they would do that. It's not that you can't but you shouldn't. If you screw up the bushings on the suspension a arms by leaving it up all winter the fix will cost more then the right lift.

Can you put the trailer on the lift and the cat under it. I think the Prowler is about 50" to the top edge of the windshield.



I just did some research and found tire engaging adapters for a 2 post lift. I will pick up a set.[/B][/QUOTE]

I wasnt sure they made something like that but that would work. Post a pic if you get them. I might use a set if i get another car.

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I wasnt sure they made something like that but that would work. Post a pic if you get them. I might use a set if i get another car.

Looks like they do not make them for my model lift but found another option I will end up fabricating. I will post pics when done.

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Went to see a friend that has the same lift I was going to install. The lift only raises 68", to low for what I am planning on doing. I guess I am going with a four post lift. I need a wider and taller than normal one so that puts a kink in things. Probably going to purchase a 12k lb lift so I can lift 1 ton dumps also. Any recommendations on manufacturer?
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Sold my 2 post lift and just installed a Forward 4 post lift over the weekend. On the hunt for a Prowler.

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