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beachcat        BANNED From:Ontario, Canada |
posted 11-29-2014 09:14 PM
    
http://ca.autoblog.com/2014/11/28/worst-cars-ever-made-auto-mistakes-ugly-cars/?ncid=canada-webmail2 If you read the guys preamble, he's downright vicious lol "This list of worst cars includes the type of automotive blunders, flops and utter failures that are largely the result of colossal management ineptitude, ego-maniacal incompetence and in many cases horrific design and engineering." |
padroo     POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Chesterton, IN, USA |
posted 11-29-2014 09:19 PM
What about the Hugo, Pinto and Vega, they usually get an high bad marks? |
alprowl POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katonah , NY, USA |
posted 11-29-2014 09:32 PM
quote: Yugo? |
ALLEY CAT         POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 11-29-2014 09:51 PM
Corvair, the Lincoln Blackwood, Toyota IQ, VW bus, Edsel, and many others come to mind |
Itpurrs POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Petrolia Ontario Canada |
posted 11-30-2014 06:40 AM
A lot of the cars he says are the worst I like the best. Just a matter of opinion. |
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RPL POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Rochester Hills, MI, USA |
posted 11-30-2014 09:01 AM
I was talking with the then President of Chrysler while walking around an employee car show. He said that the rare Chrysler muscle cars today were versions that didn't run well on the street and that they ended up driving as field cars before selling them to dealerships at a discount. What started the conversation was a Hemi Cuda on display. He said that he had several and that none of them ran well on the street. The car to have on the street was the 440 six pack. On the race track the Hemi was the car to beat. Many dealerships changed the front ends on Plymouth Superbirds after the cars sat in stock for over a year. I can remember driving a large number of Shelby V-8 Dakota pickups. I had something like 50 to drive at least 500 miles. These were the first V-8 mid-sized trucks and quick for their time. I'd have the dealership clean and prep a red one and then do a white one until they were all gone. I don't think that Prowler ever faced that fate. Prowler was in demand with the biggest issue being dealers that added additional profit on the MSRP. Did anyone here buy a Prowler new at a distressed price? Did anyone receive a large consumer rebate when they bought their new car? Read the stories today in the automotive media about the aluminum bodied 2015 Ford F150. You'll find small mention that the team that built Prowler migrated to Ford to help with the change over to the aluminum body. Prowler was built for fun. It was built to test new materials and production processes. I ran into a number of executives from GM while at Autorama just after the announcement was made to build the car. They were interested if indeed we were going to build the car. They asked about the resources that were committed to build the car. I told them the number of staff and the investment and tooling. Their reply was that you couldn't build a car for either the small number of people or low investment. I told them to keep thinking that way. Chrysler brought the car to market with those staffing restraints, investment and pricing. Compare Prowler to the muscle cars. Compare it to the cars in it's price range as to performance. Running the quarter mile in around 14.9 seconds at 90 - 91 MPH was nothing to be ashamed of. It wasn't a race car. Compared to the cars available today with 600+ HP it looks slow. But viewed in perspective it was nothing to be ashamed of. Who else has brought you a two-set roadster with an aluminum body for $40K. How many cars have held their value as well? What's a '97 Vette or a 2000 BMW worth today? Remember that opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one. Are you going to let anyone influence how you feel about the car you wanted and purchased? Did you buy it because you didn't like it? Why justify it, enjoy it. JMO |
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1of1576 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Flomaton, Al. usa |
posted 11-30-2014 09:07 AM
Makes me mad when I hear about the whole "V8 vs V6" thing!!! My '99 V6 produces 253hp. And a '99 Mustang GT with the 5.0?? 260hp! Yes, only 260!! I gotta go take a pill.... (and) my car only weighs in at 2,800 lbs!! Andy This message has been edited by 1of1576 on 11-30-2014 at 12:12 PM |
Landscape Doctor POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Live Free Or Die State, NH |
posted 11-30-2014 09:15 AM
I like it and that is all that matters to me. I think a lot of other people like it too because it is for sure a head turner. You know what they say, there is a arss for every seat. |
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beachcat BANNED From:Ontario, Canada |
posted 11-30-2014 09:20 AM
quote: VW Bus AC???? Those are very hot items these days.Especially the early 60s models. I would love to have one. |
TLRandall POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:CALDWELL, TX, US |
posted 11-30-2014 09:26 AM
Well, this guy must hate me then. I own 3 Prowlers, a Hummer H2 and am looking at an SSR. My F450 Dually proudly sucks down more diesel every time I start it then he could ever imagine. He probably hasn't driven anything in his miserable life but a Prius. |
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greatkat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Ontario, Canada |
posted 11-30-2014 09:29 AM
Regarding the cost of my 1999 Prowler, the window sticker lists the MSRP base cost of $41,000 plus the options of chrome wheels ($1,000), paint ($1,000) and the dealership "Market Adjustment" of $13,000 for a grand total rip off price of $55,000. Outrageous in my opinion !!!! Just to set everyone's mind at ease, no I'm not the original owner. |
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lionberger POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Grosse Ile, MI, USA |
posted 11-30-2014 09:41 AM
quote: I picked up my '97 in Jan. of '98 for the sticker price of $39,000. As soon as Chrysler announced they were going to build the car my dealer started taking $5,000 non-returnable deposits with the stipulation that the selling price was sticker. There were no paint or wheel options at that time. I had quite a wait. Because some cluck doesn't like the Prowler is immaterial to me. I do. He probably drives around in a Prius. ------------------ |
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beachcat BANNED From:Ontario, Canada |
posted 11-30-2014 09:51 AM
I don't care what they say from my pint of view because I get it. But I don't like the spread of misinformation by people who are considered to be auto blo experts. I sent the cluk an email but it bounced back. |
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alprowl POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katonah , NY, USA |
posted 11-30-2014 10:49 AM
quote: ??? Which car?
quote: In my area the new '97 prowlers w/ trailer were marked up to $70-100,000. On my '99, I don't recall the $1000 paint charge on the 'FACTORY' MSRP sticker. |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 11-30-2014 11:03 AM
In April of 99 we paid $45K for our Prowler. At the time I thought it was a good deal. As I recall the sticker was $40K. As to the article I couldn't say it better than RPL has already stated. |
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alprowl POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katonah , NY, USA |
posted 11-30-2014 11:15 AM
quote: I bought my first Prowler in June '98...sticker was $41000...chrome wheels were not available then...paid full list price (and a $10,000 cash tip to dealer) |
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RPL POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Rochester Hills, MI, USA |
posted 11-30-2014 11:47 AM
Had a friend that had a BMW Z1 and a Mercedes SLR in addition to a Prowler. He told me that the Prowler always got more attention than any of his other high dollar cars especially when he'd stop like at a gas station. They would come over and ask about the car. It used to piss him off that people didn't seem to notice his exotics. |
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1of1576 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Flomaton, Al. usa |
posted 11-30-2014 12:11 PM
Alprowl, sorry, I meant 2,800 lbs. Had it actually weighed at weigh station. (Although, door sticker shows 3,312) Andy |
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Michael Pond POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Canon City, Colorado |
posted 11-30-2014 01:36 PM
I have owned quitea few different cars over the years and I'm not a Brand Loyalist, but like the different styles of cars. I wanted a prowler the first time I saw it. Took a few years, but finally got my 2000. I just wish that I still had all the cars I had bought in the past!! My first new car was a 1967 Corvette coupe when I was in the Army. I've owned 6 of the plastic cars, 4 of them were pre 68's, 72 pantera, Datsun 240z,70 Firebird trans am,76 porsche 912e. Currently 98 Mustang gt, 2011 Corvette GS, 69 Dodge Dart Swinger thats been in the family since new,45 years, 08 Dodge 3500 Resistol mega cab, and My garage queen 2000 Prowler. That's what's nice about being retired, get to spend more time rubbing on the cars. Just need a bigger garage now!! |
JeraneW POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Hilton Head, South Carolina , USA |
posted 11-30-2014 01:58 PM
Well stated, Bob! |
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1of1576 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Flomaton, Al. usa |
posted 11-30-2014 02:12 PM
I have my '99 Prowler, my '71 Vega Wagon (Kammback), and am looking for a Pacer, and a "Levi's edition Gremlin. I would like the P/T Cruiser conv. for my wife, and a RED chevy SSR for me. Call me crazy!!.....'99 RED Prowler,'99 Chevy Tahoe 4x4, '71 Chevy Vega Wagon, '09 Pontiac G8, '95 RED Dodge Dakota, '02 Ford Mustang, (2) Golf cars, (2) Matching '03 Honda Silverwings, a go-cart, and a Partridge-in-a-pear-tree. As my Dad always told me...."He who dies with the most toys, WINS"!! (We bought a '76 Ford Granada, and a '76 Ford Maverick, together) We were just starting our P.O.S. collection together. R.I.P. Andy This message has been edited by 1of1576 on 11-30-2014 at 02:22 PM |
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alprowl POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katonah , NY, USA |
posted 11-30-2014 03:24 PM
quote: I have to tell you that when the Pacer was first announced, I was an AMC dealer, and at the first 'announcement meeting' there was no actual Pacer there, only 'artist renderings'...and in the pictures it looked like an Italian sports car! All of the dealers placed orders for their full allotments... And a few months later we saw the 'production' vehicle... I sold the franchise shortly after that. |
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1of1576 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Flomaton, Al. usa |
posted 11-30-2014 04:14 PM
Alprowl, Do you know (and for other member info), what the difference in the doors on the Pacer were??? Andy |
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RPL POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Rochester Hills, MI, USA |
posted 11-30-2014 04:30 PM
Right door was 4" longer than the left. |
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1of1576 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Flomaton, Al. usa |
posted 11-30-2014 04:36 PM
Very good RPL!! Andy |
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