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Richnew41



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posted 02-24-2024 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richnew41     send a private message to Richnew41   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Richnew41
I received my new Continental tiers today to replace the original Goodyear run flats. My TPMS are still working as I have no lights on the dash… That said, do you think I should replace the originals and does anyone have a recommendation on what TPMS to go with for an 01’…
Appreciate your thoughts…
Rich
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posted 02-24-2024 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greatkat     send a private message to greatkat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by greatkat
Ok, I'm getting a bit confused on this TPMS stuff.

I was planning to replace my original tires with Continentals, but that the original tire sensors may not work and need to be replaced. If so, now there seems to be 2 choices, replacement Prowler tire sensors, or if unavailable, replacement with a Viper system, which requires reprogramming.

I want to get this correct, so more advice would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Terry

This message has been edited by greatkat on 02-25-2024 at 06:11 AM

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I installed the Autel programmable TPMS sensors, and they did not work. I programmed them with the same numbers as the originals, but no luck. Schrader made the originals, I would go with them.

I cloned a second set of wheels for my 2016 Prius. I installed the Autel sensors into the wheels and I could switch from winter and summer wheels and never had a light come on. Not as lucky on the Prowler.

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posted 02-24-2024 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
We lived without tire sensors for years. Tires won't go flat without sensors. No big deal.
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posted 02-24-2024 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garysss     send a private message to garysss   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by garysss
The original Prowler sensors needed programming if you had to replace them also. Dealer had to program them. I still have original sensors in both the 99 & 01, all are still working. When they stop working, I will follow Ed's post and just check the air pressure myself.
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If your sensors are still working don’t replace them. Leave them be. You can always change them if you need to later. I eventually replaced mine with viper sensors & a viper module. Tried to get the sensors programmed through two other repair shops but their programmers wouldn’t work. I used a DRB-3 to program them.
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It's been a while since I posted this - but the sensors I had installed are still working like a champ...

http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/023075.html

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quote:
Originally posted by ed monahan:
We lived without tire sensors for years. Tires won't go flat without sensors. No big deal.

i upgraded the yellow car to the 2002 frequency the orange car is disabled so check with tire gauge. Probably will disable yellow when it fails. The system is a PIA and shouldn't be so difficult to keep it working. I had to go to dealer and they had to use 3 different scanners to get one to work & cost me $100

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My thanks to everyone for their input.

Based on the feedback, I think I will proceed as follows:
Order the Continentals and have them installed with the original sensors.

If the originals work, good.
If the originals don't work, avoid the replacement hastle and do without as suggested.

Cheers,
Terry

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I found these on eBay by (MORE sensor):
315 MHz TPMS Tire Sensor Snap In 97 99 00 01 Plymouth Prowler 4815132AB
They are only $21 each….
I’m a bit skeptical…. It does state to have it professionally programmed.
I’m siding with just keeping the originals in the new tires….
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Even though the TPMS sensors became mandatory around 2007 and the technicians that mount tires are familiar with them these days, it might be a good idea to let the technician know that your vehicle does have the sensors in the wheels.

It would be easy for the technician to attempt to pull the valve stem from the wheel in order to quickly deflate the tires (Even though they might have metallic valve stems VS rubber versions).

They will need to remove the valve core to let the air out of the tires and will need to keep track of those cores as there is a small chance that they could be different than ones in use currently. Losing track of one could again be problematic.

Many of the Big Box and even smaller independent shops might want to suggest that any damage done to your wheels is not their liability, if this is the case then you need to decide if you want them to proceed with the job or not.

Even though it seems most shops now have the type of machine that works well on newer vehicles, I would suggest looking for a shop that specializes in larger wheels or custom wheels if there is one locally.
These shops are more likely to have the higher end machines that do not come in contact with the outside edge of the wheel and potentially have competent experienced technicians.

Also as mentioned previously....remove the center caps yourself so there is less of a chance they could be damaged by the technician.

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I use something like this

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BLSXWZMR/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?psc=1&pf_rd_p=0d1092dc-81bb-493f-8769-d5c802257e94&pf_rd_r=3Y64SG8BZ4QHHMN2PJ48&pd_rd_wg=Kyfa1&pd_rd_w=DqOAu&content-id=amz n1.sym.0d1092dc-81bb-493f-8769-d5c802257e94&pd_rd_r=77a39fee-9a61-4a00-8440-42c143119d08&s=automotive&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwy

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Thanks Andria… Very Good Advice!!!
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Before you install those old sensors Rich, have them read and they can tell you what the condition the battery inside the sensors is. I would also write down the numbers of each sensor, it is printed on it and save them.

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Here is the Schrader page with all the ones that fit a 1999 Plymouth Prowler.
http://catalogue.schradertpms.com/en-US/2001/plymouth/prowler.html?vehicletype=AU

All Prowler from 1997 up to including 2001 came with 315 mhz
TPMS sensors. 2002 used the 433 mhz.

Here is one of my original sensors with the numbers.


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quote:
Originally posted by padroo:
Before you install those old sensors Rich, have them read and they can tell you what the condition the battery inside the sensors is. I would also write down the numbers of each sensor, it is printed on it and save them.

The tech at dealership when trying to program mine ask if I had the numbers & location on each. I didn’t do that since didn’t know I should

But good idea to write down numbers & what wheel they are in

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I don’t understand the need for tire sensors if you have non-run flat tires.
I have a similar aftermarket system to dskatt but my front tires are run-flat. (Not original)
You will soon know if you have a puncture with non run flats,
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It would let you know if tire is low without having to check it and would give you warning tire is losing air before it actually goes flat while driving. Its not a necessity, but a convince. Up until about 25 years ago, we all did without them.
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FYI. When I had tire Rack replace my tires a few years ago they told me the sensors were all bad. I told them not to worry, just mount the tires because they were working fine.
The problem was their tool wouldn't talk to the old Prowler sensors. Probably what's still going on when the shop tells you the sensors are bad when they are working just fine. The only tool that will program the Prowler original sensors is the DRB-3 and in my area I only know of one guy that has one. The dealer doesn't even have one.

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