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PROWLER-KEITH
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posted 02-04-2003 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PROWLER-KEITH     
Thks for all your persistence Koz.. I've asked my dealer in Canuck land to check regularly to see if they do ..

PK

Kozican
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posted 02-04-2003 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kozican     
Its good to know Neal has confirmed and already recieved info on this.

Bruce emailed me this morning: ALL YEARS OF THE PROWLER are involved!!

He left me no info on a recall number. I assume he doesnt have that info and is requesting Chrysler to contact us all.

Mike K., If you need help driving the cars in, let me know. I'll take the High Voltage for you! LOL

Don

butchcee
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posted 02-04-2003 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
This would bite for those that have polished or painted arms if DC will only replace the whole arm and not just the joint.


jd2ksilver
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posted 02-04-2003 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jd2ksilver     
Those ball joints come out Al. I really doubt that they would replace the whole unit. In fact, I doubt that this is going to happen period. JMO. But this would have come out years ago. Anyway they do pop out, and some of the problem is the A arm receivers differ in hole circumference. One of mine needed a brass shim for one of them. Anyway, like I said, JMO. I don't think I would take a replacement just for that reason. Now you don't have to keep a record of it Dan, I said it in print.

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GaryE
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posted 02-04-2003 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GaryE     
I remove and replace the ball joints all the time as part of the chroming process. I hope they make ball joints available so I can get some spare ones. I run into boots that have been damages and would like to get some more spare ones since I am almost out. I have been told that it is the bottom ball joint only that has failed. I have not seen any evidence of the problem when inspecting the pieces during the chroming process. Please keep us all informed of progress.

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Kozican
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posted 02-04-2003 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kozican     
JD, I think this will happen.My reason is 1.)Neal has already confirmed to check these for play. 2.) There have already been a few that have failed. 3.) the D.O.T. is involved and has informed them to do so. Firestone had a recall due to a few rollovers, right? It is a SAFETY issue and if loss of life occures by failing to recall, that family will just about OWN Chrysler. JMO

Neal, If you have a TSB on this can you post it?

Don
PS. JD, Im not disagreeing with your point, JMO too


Al's Prowler
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posted 02-04-2003 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al's Prowler     
quote:
Originally posted by Kozican:
JD, I think this will happen.My reason is 1.)Neal has already confirmed to check these for play.

Neal, If you have a TSB on this can you post it.


I doubt there's any play on a new or near new Prowler, is this going to be a recall or TSB. If it's a TSB it's very unlikely owners will be notified of the problem ( if there is one ), thanks for update.

Al



neal
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posted 02-04-2003 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neal     
we do not have the imformation yet on the recall.i left out the not in my statement earlier.i would think this is going to be an inspection of the front upper and lower ball on front.we have a recall on some chrysler cars to inspect the balljoints check for play and if the rubber boot is torn we replace the arms.the prowler service manual page 2-20 tells you to replace the a-arms if balljoints are bad.


jeanszoo
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posted 02-04-2003 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jeanszoo     
Thank you for the info., I had no idea about this, sooooo, while I was at the dealer today, getting my cruise control, and cd changer replaced, I asked how I would know if this was going bad, they told me that it would cause a squish, or looseness in the steering, and if it fell out the steering wheel would all of a sudden turn on way, and I would still be going straight, or something like that. That is a scarry thought!!!!!!!!!!!! Any way, I just thought that I would put in my .02, gee whiz, where is that cent sign hiding?


Black Tie 161
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posted 02-05-2003 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Black Tie 161     
quote:
Originally posted by Al's Prowler:
I doubt there's any play on a new or near new Prowler, is this going to be a recall or TSB. If it's a TSB it's very unlikely owners will be notified of the problem ( if there is one ), thanks for update.

Al



Al, Personally, I would be shocked if such a dangerous life threatening flaw in the ball joints would be treated as just a TSB. (I hope!) let's all hope this is a full blown recall so we can drive with some assurance our cars will stay on the road while driving...


GRROWL
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posted 02-05-2003 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRROWL     
quote:
Originally posted by jeanszoo:
I asked how I would know if this was going bad, they told me that it would cause a squish, or looseness in the steering

What the dealer described sounds like the standard balljoint check for wear. If memory serves, the experts on this board have stated that the failure mode is just the opposite - the joint seizes and then breaks - an early symption is TIGHT STEERING. The recommended check (again from memory) is to disconnect the tie rods and make sure the joints are LOOSE and turn freely (i.e., not seized).

Can someone with more expertise than me in this area please confirm what the proper safety check should consist of? If we're going to go through this to gain a sense of security, we should at least confirm the proper safety check.

-GRROWL



Gary C
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posted 02-05-2003 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     
Before the crash on my 99 the steering was way more harder than my 2000, way more, after having all the Suspension replaced and both sides done it like the 2000 but a little smoother, they also replaced the steering unit... thanks for the reminder Steve...


Kozican
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posted 02-05-2003 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kozican     
GRROWL,
Your correct......I experianced a hard steer for a couple weeks prior to mine breaking.I took it in and they said it was "safe" to drive while the steering rack was ordered. After picking it up late that week, It broke on sunday of that weekend. I had just returned from a emergency trip taking my little one to the doctor. We had been driving about 70mph just a couple hours previously. That is what scared the hell out of me!!!!


jeanszoo
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posted 02-05-2003 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jeanszoo     
Now I am getting confused, I guess that I will find out if it happens to me. Thanks for all the help.


GRROWL
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posted 02-05-2003 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRROWL     
This was discussed at last week's chat session. I assume it will be a topic tonight @ 7:00 EST?

-GRROWL

spoons
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posted 02-05-2003 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     
I informed the local dealer and they want the recall #?


GRROWL
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posted 02-05-2003 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRROWL     
Just checked NHTSA, no recall yet.

Here's one of the complaints:
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NHTSA Action Number : PE02062 NHTSA Recall Campign Number : N/A
Make : PLYMOUTH Model: PROWLER
Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION Year : 1999
Component : SUSPENSION
Date Investigation Opened : August 13, 2002
Date Investigation Closed : November 26, 2002

Make: PLYMOUTH
Model: PROWLER
Year: 1999
NHTSA Action Number: PE02062
Summary:
ALLEGED BALL JOINT FAILURES ON THE LOWER CONTROL ARMS
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

-GRROWL

jeanszoo
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posted 02-05-2003 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jeanszoo     
Thank you GRROWL, I am so glad that you cleared that up for me, fortunately mine is a 2001.


GRROWL
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posted 02-05-2003 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRROWL     
quote:
Originally posted by jeanszoo:
Thank you GRROWL, I am so glad that you cleared that up for me, fortunately mine is a 2001.

It was reported that the recall would be for all years, and you have to go into the database for each specific year, so I just pulled one up that I knew existed (in fact, mine is a 2000). A couple of days ago, I checked all years and nothing about a recall yet.

-GRROWL



jeanszoo
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posted 02-05-2003 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jeanszoo     
I think that I will just keep my dealer apprised and have him keep checking to see what is happening, if he can. THANKS AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!


Black Tie 161
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posted 02-06-2003 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Black Tie 161     
Thanks again GRROWL....I know what the warning signs are now!


Kozican
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posted 02-06-2003 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kozican     
Guys and Gals,
I have left Bruce York a voice mail regarding ALL the questions you've had. Hopefully he will return my call or email me soon. Thanks for your patience......Don


Kozican
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posted 02-07-2003 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kozican     
Ok......here's all I have from Bruce as of 02/07/03. I quote:

Don,

We just recieved the recall notice from Chrysler on 02/04/03. We have not assigned it a number. Chrysler is calling it #C03. In it they state that they will be replacing ALL lower ball joints on all model years and will reimburse owners who have already had the work done if they can provide reciepts or other proof of payment. The notice says that they intend to start notifying consumers in late March. I hope this answers some questions.

Bruce York
1-800-986-9678 ext.66938

end of quote.........

Don


WPG
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posted 02-07-2003 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WPG     
Thanks for the info on this. This has concerned me after hearing about the ones that have had failures and I am glad that something is being done about it. I mentioned it to the service manager while my car was in this week but he said he could not do anything until he had a recall number. Once again, thanks for staying on top of this.

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This message has been edited by William Gallagher on 02-07-2003 at 03:01 PM

spoons
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posted 02-07-2003 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     
Bill,

I am in the same boat you are ... dealers will not fix the problem until a recall # is offically issued.

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