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dpena Administrating Kat Posts: 5359 |
posted 08-09-2002 02:46 AM
Can anyone help Larry on this question?? Email from Larry lmeier@inebraska.com
Later... ------------------ |
ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 08-09-2002 07:26 AM
Larry - Sorry to hear your custom yellow cat took a slide. Don (DW) in Texas had a similar problem with his cat. He would be the guy to contact, and you two both work in the same occupation so this will be a excellent source to converse with. Texas owners - can you get DW's phone or email address and email to Larry M. at his address in Dan's first post, thanks. Larry - keep us posted on the final answers. ------------------
This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 08-09-2002 at 07:28 AM |
prwlyn Prowler Junkie Posts: 1668 |
posted 08-09-2002 07:37 AM
Dan, I was just contacted the other evening by a gentlemen from the Federal Highway Safety Department. I'm not sure how he got to me but he said they are looking into the Prowler's lower control arm ball joints. Reason is they have reports of them coming apart. He had seen a note that Don Ward had posted with pictures but couldn't find it again. He asked if I could contact that person and have him call him. They want pictures if at all possible. I called Don and gave him the number, I've not heard if he called them. The guys name was Bruce, didn't catch the last name. I'd recommend that any owner have their dealership inspect the lower ball joints and make sure the repair order states that they signed off as to the condition of the ball joints at time of inspection. This way you have some peace of mind. I've had mine checked and the dealer says they are fine. I'm out of warranty but the cost to inspect was small when compared to the end result.. ------------------ |
Kozican Prowler Junkie Posts: 802 |
posted 08-09-2002 07:41 AM
Been there done that as AC says Larry. Call me @ 888-406-8374 or cell # 281-827-6974. Fred actually had a guy by the name of Bruce with DOT contact him with regards to these type situations. TAKE PICTURES AND SAVE THE PARTS!!!! Bruce needs them for his study. There will possibly be a SAFETY RECALL according to him. Bruce (National Highway Safety Board Administration) I am currently looking for my pics for him. Chrysler covered my damage @ 100% Don Ward |
Kozican Prowler Junkie Posts: 802 |
posted 08-09-2002 07:47 AM
Fred, looks like we were both replying at the same time... Yes I did call him. I forgot to mention, I had heard of this happening to 2 or 3 others when it happened to me. Does anyone know who these people are? Bruce needs to talk to them. Fellow Kat owners SAFETY depends on it!!!
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Ray unregistered Posts: 802 |
posted 08-09-2002 10:20 AM
Question ... what year Kat's are these that this is happening to? Do they feel it is a "parts" issue (limited to a few cars) or a design issue (we all need to be concerned)? Thanks |
jpo350 Prowler Junkie Posts: 220 |
posted 08-09-2002 10:28 AM
Oh My..... First the Viper front ends fall off. Now, the Prowler front ends are falling off? What gives at DC? ------------------ |
Kozican Prowler Junkie Posts: 802 |
posted 08-09-2002 10:43 AM
So far, the only year concerned is 99. I explained to Bruce that mine was a 2000. His comment was, "yes I know. We're looking at expanding to 2000 models depending on the results of the investigation." He also stated," Its my understanding that there is a diff. part number for 2001 and up models". He asked me if I knew the part numbers they replaced mine with. I never got any info or paperwork from the dealer so I couldnt answer him. |
SnoCat Prowler Junkie Posts: 35 |
posted 08-09-2002 10:49 PM
Wasn't there a Problem with some cars not getting Grease in the Ball Joints ..It seems there was a Post awhile back .. Always was going to check mine , now I will first think tommorrow.. |
willard Prowler Enthusiast Posts: 11 |
posted 08-10-2002 06:13 AM
Larry: I no of two prowlers that the ball jts broke. One is a cutomer of mine. I own an alignment shop in SE PA. The one I know no first hand was diagnosed by a chry dealer as needing a steering rack because of a handling problem. It was sent to me for align and I found the ball joints were seizing up making it hard to turn. Checking the ball joints the normal way (up & down-in & out) will most likely not find the problem. Reason: Ball is getting tight in socket. Before the dealer got the jts installed one broke off. Minor fender damage. Hope this helps Willard SE PA 2000 yellow |
PROWLER-KEITH Prowler Junkie Posts: 1243 |
posted 08-10-2002 07:05 AM
Willard what way would you suggest for them to be checked the best way then?? I have a 99 took dilivery early april 99. THKS PK |
willard Prowler Enthusiast Posts: 11 |
posted 08-10-2002 09:00 AM
PK: Lets talk symtoms first. Car will be hard to handle or wandering all over the road. Steering may feel tight and may not return to straight ahead as easy as it did. Both cases I know about were Diagnosed as a bad steering rack which makes sense but didn't fix complant. The best way I found to check jts if you have the above symtoms: Disconect tie rods from spindle. Try turning each wheel in and out. Wheels should turn with little resistance. I'm fairly sure that if you have jts seizing up you will notice a handling problem. Both Prowlers that I know about had the handling problem. Both had new racks installed and didn't help. Willard SE PA 2000 yellow |
Kozican Prowler Junkie Posts: 802 |
posted 08-10-2002 09:25 AM
PK, Larry and I compared stories last night. Here's what we had in common: 1.)both noticed steering difficulty. But you what.......We both still LOVE our cars! D. |
WildCat Prowler Junkie Posts: 6862 |
posted 08-10-2002 09:11 PM
I have mine on lift right now to repair sticking caliper. In checking the lower ball joint I find it a none serviceable part, (no grease fitting) WE ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS AT SOME POINT Need to find good aftermarket lower ball joint that has zert fittings so they can be greased I plan on doing so research to see what I can come up with. |
BLACKAL Prowler Junkie Posts: 128 |
posted 08-10-2002 09:25 PM
Last December I was over in Hawaii for vacation and wanted to rent a Prowler for the day.I saw a yellow ane sitting at a rental lot. When I inquired about it the man said sorry the front end broke. Sure enough the ball Joint was busted. I did inquire about ball joint problems when I bougt mine but the dealer didn't know of any problems. Al ------------------ |
ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 08-11-2002 01:15 AM
Larry M and Don W - thanks for your stories about the collapsing front ends. As Wildcat said, we need a fix for this very serious problem. SOON,,,,NOW. Mike K - can you get our secret man in Detroit in on this discussion? I'm sure he and DC do not want this problem to go any further unrecognized. I don't think it would be in their best interest, or ours, to have the Federal Highway Safety Department leeking this to the media. The Corvair, Vega, Pinto, and Explorer problems serve as a statement to what happens to a car line when the manufacturer denies any knowledge of any problems. Anyone else agree? |
Ray unregistered Posts: 36093 |
posted 08-11-2002 09:08 AM
A/C ... I diagree completely and will be intereted to see what Mike's "secret agent" says as well. How soon we forget, these cars are NO LONGER produced, they were produced in VERY LIMITED numbers and hence the expoure for DC (as if these cars got MUCH exposure when they were in production -- ha!) is also VERY limited and easier to handle on a case by case basis (not what I as an owner would like to hear either - of course). The cars YOU cite were in MASS production and VERY visible to the general public (how many people actually know WHAT you are driving when they see you in the Kat?). Cheaper for a manufacturer to "see what happens" (remember movie CLASS ACTION with Gene Hackman?!?) in cases like these ... Also, A/C ... subtle threats like you post can be damaging to a group/web site like this ... might rethink those kind of "subtle statements" in the future ... unless it contains your "Stamp of approval", then how could the Media resist -- right? |
ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 |
posted 08-21-2002 02:25 AM
How about an update on this topic! Anything new from anyone? If not, I guess we can blame Alley Cat. |
Mike Krehel Administrating Kat Posts: 3047 |
posted 08-21-2002 02:32 AM
Ed, thanks for bringing this back up. I haven't heard any more on this issue. Anyone updates? |
ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 08-21-2002 08:36 AM
I have emailed Larry and Don to see if there are any updates. Fred H. - anything new from your end? |
Kozican Prowler Junkie Posts: 802 |
posted 08-21-2002 10:20 AM
AC-"you've got mail"....However, I'll go ahead and respond here. I haven't had time to post on the board lately....Sorry! I talked to Bruce with NTSB last week when I sent him my pictures. He told me Larry was able to keep the old parts off his car and was sending them to him. He was expecting them right away.
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dpena Administrating Kat Posts: 5359 |
posted 08-21-2002 04:30 PM
Folks, Larry has been emailing me almost every other day with status on his progress. Things are going his way and has repaired his CAT. I will ask him is he can post or allow me to post his details. Larry M., If you read this, how about an update here?? Later... |
SnapCase Prowler Junkie Posts: 128 |
posted 08-21-2002 07:25 PM
OK so im worried now too. I am now approaching 35K on my 99 and my 3 year warranty is up. The last thing i need is for this to happen. On eof the checks was for shaky steering well i thought that was normal. my car is always trying to jump all over the road. I will have it up on jacks this weekend, can anyone explain a detailed way to check the lower ball joints. I cant afford this type of repair. and if i just take it to a dealer to check it out and they say its ok well if it does brake 2000 miles down the road they will just blame it on me.
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GRROWL Prowler Junkie Posts: 2404 |
posted 08-24-2002 11:27 PM
This may be a long shot, but question: Did any of the cars with failed balljoints have a brake job that included the use of brake cleaner? I just replaced my pads and sprayed off the dust with brake cleaner. A puddle formed right over the lower balljoint and, remembering this post, I quickly blew it out. If I left the puddle, it looks like it could have found its way into the balljoint. End of balljoint in a few thousand miles. Comments? -GRROWL |
ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 |
posted 08-25-2002 12:06 AM
It wouldn't have to be due to a brake job. If a puddle forms right there, it probably forms a small puddle everytime we wash the car or get caught in a storm. If the water seeps in and then rusts, problems would occur down the line. I will look at this the next time I wash the cat. |
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