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Dale Beaman

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posted 09-29-2005 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale Beaman     send a private message to Dale Beaman   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dale Beaman
WOW!

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Very nice. Can't wait for the pics and more details...
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posted 09-29-2005 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1buddyc     send a private message to 1buddyc   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by 1buddyc
Man, that's the way I always dreamed the Prowler could be. Thanks to the Krehels and the Westech Team for living the dream!!
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posted 09-29-2005 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jd2ksilver     send a private message to jd2ksilver   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by jd2ksilver
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Originally posted by RPL:
Stock gears? You bet, gotta keep it in third gear through the quarter to avoid the deadly 3 - 4 shift.

Man, I just love that. Everyone thinking I was crazy for going back to stock.

I'm gonna have to re-think my options now.

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I should add, I am still crazy,,,
But not because of that,, lol
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Originally posted by jd2ksilver:
I should add, I am still crazy,,,
But not because of that,, lol

you're still crazy John I got gears and made it through the quarter in 3rd without hitting the limiter and still ran 12's and 106. Guess the stroker has the torque not to need the gears....or smaller diameter tires. What converter was used guys?

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posted 09-29-2005 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Krehel     send a private message to Mike Krehel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Mike Krehel
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Originally posted by butchcee:
great time--stock tires,skinnies and fenders, open exhaust, head work, cams, RWHP? will you share the details?

The stock tires wouldn't hook up at all. This run was with 15" M/T slicks (with and outside diameter slightly smaller than stock rear tires) and stock front tires aired up. Exhaust consists of Norms custom headers and muffler. Heads were flowed, custom cams and 4" bore and stroke. Stock tranny and modified torque converter. RWHP was 300+ in it's current configuration. We still think we can pickup more HP with a little more R&D. BTW, this is a yellow 2000 Prowler.

Many thanks again to Norm's team and everyone else who made this happen.

Norm has been working on the stroker project for over 3 years now, and has produced 4 engines so far. He will be making the strokers available in 3 sizes pricing to be determined. Anyone with questions should feel free to call Norm or Jim at Westech Automotive (262) 889-4346.

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Congratulations on the nice numbers!

Have you upgraded the stock brakes?

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Mike - I tried to get Norm to swap engines in our cars when I was up there last week so I do could do long high mileage R & D on the "302" but Norm wanted to keep it up there to run at the track. Maybe I can get back up there and switch now - just so you know the engine is durable!
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Thanks for sharing Mike--again, great times and another milestone in Prowler development. Looking forward to future development. Think the yellow color had anything to do with it?
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NORM AND I WILL HAVE SOME MORE NUMBERS POSTED TODAY FOR THE BASE PRICING ON THE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS AVAILABLE. FOR NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT A FEW DIFFERENT STROKER COMBO'S THAT WILL BE THE BEST AVAILABLE. JUST BE PATIENT AND YOU WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY WITH OUR PACKAGES!!!
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Hope you can include one for a supercharged car.
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JD, in general and from my discussions with Norm, it's pretty safe to say that the regular builds regardless of ci will all lend themselves very well to being normally aspirated, supercharged, or nitrous boosted based on the stout bottom ends, forged pistons, camming, head work, etc. The exception is a turbo build mainly due to the inordinate exhaust back pressure not present in the other builds, but Norm built accordingly and I'll be running the prototype turbo build.

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cool, just wondered if the compression is lowered, but I will wait to get all my answers in time.

Good for you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, turbo,, fast,, cool.

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John - George's engine dynoed the same Horsepower figures as mine. Engines are the same basic size and configuration but his is was running 87 Octane gasoline and has lower compresssion by 1.5 points I believe so it will handle boost. He has slightly different cams and valves because of being a turbo engine.
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WELL HERE IT IS FOLKS........THE 5.0 INSTALLED AND TUNED .....$18,995.00 WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE BASE PRICING ON THE SMALLER STROKERS, 4.0 & 4.3. CALL EITHER NORM OR JIM AT THE SHOP MONDAY - FRIDAY 8:00 AM - 6:00 PM CENTRAL TIME WITH ANY QUESTIONS AND TO SCHEDULE YOUR TIME SLOT.
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True Marty. Beyond that I've got to go back under wraps about my particular setup for competitive reasons due to having four or so nationals on the agenda for '06, but I do look forward to representing Westech at events, and will be providing a lot of feedback to Norm for his development purposes which others wanting to turbo will benefit by.

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..... I do look forward to representing Westech at events, and will be providing a lot of feedback to Norm for his development purposes which others wanting to turbo will benefit by.


I will waiting to see how your turbo setup works out. - The extra torque from stroker motor and power from the turbo should be awesome.!!

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Originally posted by WESTECH DRIVER:
WELL HERE IT IS FOLKS........THE 5.0 INSTALLED AND TUNED .....$18,995.00

Boy, what a thread killer,, lol.

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the nice thing about a turbo in the 300 will be plenty of room for an intercooler.
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I WANT A STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey Al, I'm glad you didn't part with the yellow TT, it leaves you positioned for just swapping in a short block. Maybe Santa will bring you one.

But... believe me, on the 300 there's nothing easy and like zero room under the hood or in the nose. You can make room, but there's a price to pay in more ways than one to get it done. It definitely isn't the way it was when you saw it last


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