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ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA Registered: Jul 2000 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 01:45 PM quote: Originally posted by idive: No airbag deployment took place. Does that mean they should have their airbag checked? Mickey,,,there are no air bag sensors in the front bumpers.
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA Registered: Jul 2000 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 02:37 PM I had the 99 Red painted very early on. Sold that car but liked the looks of the painted bumpers. Had the Candy bumpers painted and then had the front end chromed. I decided fairly quickly that it was not a good combination so I removed the front bumpers.
idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA Registered: Apr 2003 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 02:47 PM quote: Originally posted by ALLEY CAT: Mickey,,,there are no air bag sensors in the front bumpers. That's what I keep hearing but I was referring to Bob's post where it seems he indicates differently... At least indicating that a collision to the front bumpers will trigger the airbags... quote: Originally posted by RPL: We wouldn't want the facts to get in the way here. The fact is that Prowler was designed with bumpers to meet Federal Crash Standards. The front bumpers have an aluminum substructure bolted to the frame. Typically, the bumpers are the first point of impact in a frontal collision. The impact signal they send triggers the air bags. Yes, impacting other areas of the car will trigger the bags, but timing is off and the bags deploy late, not as designed. The time and distance traveled difference between impacting the bumper and driving the flexible front wheel structure rearward can make a critical difference in the bags deploying when needed. Crash events happen in milliseconds. ...
fibertop Prowler Junkie From:Wasaga Beach Ontario Registered: Sep 2010 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 02:51 PM gulp
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa Registered: Jun 2001 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 03:14 PM it must be a frontal collision not from the side ,frt only.the sensors are located at the very frt of the frame area,and have enough inertia to set off the sensors.it also must be straight frontal.one side or the other will not do it. ------------------
RPL POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Rochester Hills, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2000 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 04:34 PM The sensor is on the frame. The bumpers and anything attached to it send the impact vibration that the sensor picks up. It is not mechanical like a button or exposed switch. It is a device that monitors for a distinct signature. It has to ignore large pot holes, curb bumps and other small impacts. We've actually bent a wheel, both in Tulsa and Detroit hitting huge pot holes and never set the bags off.
Jim C Prowler Junkie From:Corona, Ca Registered: Jul 2004 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 05:13 PM Catfish is right, lift your hood look down at the inside of the nose front of the frame you can see the sensor.there is no sensors in the bupers.
RPL POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Rochester Hills, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2000 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 05:40 PM I told you all not to let the facts get in the way of a good opinion. Let's see, will the Fed's take an opinion when certifying a vehicle for operation on the road? Now, wonder why the Kevlar straps are on the side frame rails attached to the body tub or the magnesium cross car bean is behind the dash? Oh, who sat through the slow-mo videos of Prowler front, rear and side verification crashes? All the development and testing was done to ensure the safest possible car for your protection. Just like seat belts, it's your choice to wear them or not. People will do what they want to to their cars. That's their freedom. Just don't confuse preference and opinion with the facts.
alrtg POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Westminster, MD, USA Registered: Dec 2008 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 07:05 PM When I got my car the picnic benches on both ends had mysteriously fallen off so I was inclined to protect myself and add bumpers. I am thankful Real Rod produced these.
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA Registered: Jul 2000 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 07:45 PM ",,,,,picnic benches on both ends,," I thought they were Big Gulp soda cup holders?
StingRay POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Elk Grove Village, IL, USA Registered: Sep 2010 Admin Use	posted 06-06-2011 08:35 PM quote: Originally posted by RPL: I told you all not to let the facts get in the way of a good opinion. Let's see, will the Fed's take an opinion when certifying a vehicle for operation on the road? Now, wonder why the Kevlar straps are on the side frame rails attached to the body tub or the magnesium cross car bean is behind the dash? Oh, who sat through the slow-mo videos of Prowler front, rear and side verification crashes? All the development and testing was done to ensure the safest possible car for your protection. Just like seat belts, it's your choice to wear them or not. People will do what they want to to their cars. That's their freedom. Just don't confuse preference and opinion with the facts. Very Well Stated!
Ed W. Prowler Junkie From:Port Huron, MI USA Registered: Jan 2003 Admin Use	posted 06-07-2011 09:06 PM My $ .02; we own a 97 & the gray bumpers just don't get it. I was faced with the same decision as you. I also know the kind of luck I have had (or not had as the cse may be) if I were to remove the bumpers. I chose to paint them the color of the car. Not only do they blend in, they're no where near as noticeable as before. I'm glad I chose this option. I also agree with the post about checking with your insurance company. Still worthy of consideration would be to understand that a front end collision without bumpers would severely circumvent the operation of the air bags. RPL can explain it much better than I.

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