posted 12-23-2013 12:14 PM                  

How long will the prowler engine last with twin boost? You might as well put Nitrous on it as well. I wonder if he's running a stock transaxle?

posted 12-23-2013 02:33 PM                  

A lot of be carefuls on this one, might be fun if it really works! Post and share if you buy it. If you do turn down the boost

posted 12-23-2013 03:26 PM                  

Or Porsche transaxle. Z06 505 hp engine won't blow the Porsche transaxle.

posted 12-23-2013 09:30 PM                  

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Originally posted by xtreme prowler:
I was told by the owner of a very well known car customizer and restorer that the only way around the prowler transaxel being the weak point is to use a Corvette manual transaxel. This solution isn't horribly expensive and eliminates the computer issue. this guy owns a Prowler and really knows his stuff... Just relaying what he told me on the phone...

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Your right since the prowler runs a separate computer for the the Trans it's not hard to bi pass electronically. The Hemi Kat uses a manual Hemi computer from a truck so it doesn't look for the tranny.
The problem is the fabrication a corvette layout maybe a transaxle but completely different. It also is base on a sealed tube prowler is just a spinning shaft. Your talking 1000 hours in fab to get it right did you see the chip foose one/ lpe? Just look at the welds custom floor boards This is like a 1 off car!
http://www.prowleronline.com/misc/lpe_prowler/

Maybe this will help
Top prowler rear
Bottom Vette! Can you make it work sure if money isn't and thing be ready to start chopping!

posted 12-24-2013 03:59 PM                  

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Originally posted by Gort:
2014 Vette has new 8 speed transmission !!! Whatever Porsche does,everyone else tries to copy. I have a friend that has a Panamera S,twin turbo Porsche with an 8 speed automatic/manual transmission. Really fast car to be so large.

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King of looks vs the king of engineering. New 911 is the MT drivers car of the year and will cost ya close to 90-100k. Prowler about 25k. Both v6s.

That Porsche rear in most cars is a transaxle but majority of recent Porsches have rear mounted engines.
That one from crave I heard was based on a earlier model manual racecar type not something typical like a standard 911. PDK is an amazing Trans. Just a completely different type of car and set up!

I drove in this new 911 it was pretty great but never get the looks of the prowler. My driving instructor at the track was a Porsche driver he took me around the track in his and it had the perfect power to driving balance.
He also took the hemi Kat for a lap and was amazed at how well it handled with the stock suspension and added power.

posted 12-25-2013 12:46 PM                  

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Originally posted by Gort:
I think the Prowler has more bling for sure. The Porsche would look better with a big green bow across the top ,in my driveway..smiles

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Way before I knew anything about prowler performance I saw one of the 2 Ida twin turbo prowlers at a prowler drag day in Nj. Video below

This yellow one was pretty fast but but back then I never understood why the guy was putting actual ice packs on his engine every time he ran on the track.
It made no sense to me
Than later when I called the shop Ida looking for power options he said the twin turbos didn't have an inner-cooler.

I said what? Your taking hot exhaust gases and using it to spin 2 turbos and pushing hot air back into the engine? And we wonder why they only made 2 and folks had engine problems. The problem with and inner cooler on a prowler is limited space see how tight the turbos are below. Grill is also limited

I saw them on eBay many times. One guy here sent me an pm. When the car was in Texas he said they had to replace the engine.

The 3.5 v6 is a reliable one but not a performance one. For the prowler they maxed out out the potential.

Even the supercharger from Paxton (one of best in the business) didn't last long. I called them also they said we don't even support that product any more.

If this guy worked some magic and figured the turbo out I don't think he would be selling it. Better off he would be selling a kit to us all

I looked at every option I could find before going Hemi. People wonder why we have so many Tricks on the Hemi Kat for cooling , aftermarket grill, side panels and the shaker? It for a functional purpose not just having a big scoop on my hood.
Even dean with 5.0s built that hillborn scoop through the hood for a purpose. Small engine bay mean lots of heat!!

Ida twin turbo.
Check out this video on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/ZmTGNTWre9s

posted 12-25-2013 03:09 PM                  

I'm not afraid to share the truth!

Here I'm with my "custom one off Hemi Kat" With a professional Porsche driver and track instructor. He actually drove the Hemi kat at Lime rock raceway After I did to test it out! He was impressed! None of the other drivers or instructors could believe that an actual person would bring a prowler to a race day better yet a 1 off custom one with a Hemi!

I got special permission by having a hard top and running in the novice class with a instructor.

The Hemi Kat was Pushed to the limits at a day of full blow track conditions with turns not just a straight line. Top speeds way over 100 on straights.

Most of the other drivers that came any distance trailered in! By the way we also drove our car over 300 miles- about 150 miles each way to the track (lime rock ct from Nj) and back! No trailer with a bra on! Pushed it all day long on over 4 different track runs!! No overheating and made it home in one piece!

Check out this video on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/0wVdgueuHyg

The car is custom but we enjoy it! Almost 3,000 miles of smiles so far!
Would love to see that on this guys twin turbo or crave! Then I think all of the rest of us prowler common folks will be a believer!

We share what we know and keep it real from a proud 13 year prowler owner www.facebook.com/hemiprowler

posted 12-26-2013 03:59 PM                  

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Originally posted by treyb:
Dare to compare
Porsche vs prowler?

New 911 is the MT drivers car of the year and will cost ya close to 90-100k. Prowler about 25k. Both v6s.

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That aside, thank you for providing this visual of your red Prowler in front of a red 911:

With regard to the appearance of the Prowler, I've got to agree with both you and Gort:

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Originally posted by treyb:
King of looks....

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Originally posted by Gort:
I think the Prowler has more bling for sure.

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posted 12-27-2013 09:36 AM                  

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Great one show car I'm still learning and yes they must be doing something right to get between 350-400hp out of a 6 and 500 plus out of a turbo. Its just well engineered and balenced.

Prowler is king of looks. When we built the Hemi Kat had Porsche as a benchmark the 3.8 carera 911s

Curb weight3,075 lbs
Max hp 400hp
Max tq 325ft lbs
MSRP $ 98,900.00

10 years with the prowler Keep thinking oh need to be faster but anything else from a c6 Vette to mustang or even a Porsche, srt, viper did not get the unique looks of a prowler or weighed a ton more and still would have been over 50k to buy

Prowler was far paid for, insurance cheap, liked it a ton just lost that wow fun driving factor at 12 years.

Hemi prowler
Now 425+hp from a stock Srt 6.1 performance engine
Tq- 420ft lbs
Weight around 2950lbs
With the look and Mopar parts.
Price well below any thing I could have brought and still the car we love!

Strong point of prowler- well build alum frame,

open architecture, great suspension. Light weight

Weak points: the drive train.

All Prowlers came with Chrysler's 3.5-liter V-6. Transversely mounted in other Chrysler cars, the V-6 was turned "North-South" to accommodate the Prowler's rear-wheel-drive drivetrain. Prowlers featured a unique one-piece transmission/axle "transaxle" set back in the car for excellent weight distribution. Worked for under 190hp at the wheels

Most perf cars have bolt on Trans to handle the tq of hp.
Top typical Hemi. Bottom hemiprowler adaptation

The shock/power from engine is absorbed right on the engine and transferred. This can handle a lot more!

The prowler not, power not its delivered through the drive shaft and tq Convertor, clutches, gears in a very small Trans! That also can actually fit the rear. Just think about your small trunk, big tires and trying to fit a Trans, gas tank, Trans cooler etc on that little space.

Porsche has everything perfectly engineered in the rear only cost 50k more!!