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Michelredcat

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posted 03-03-2014 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michelredcat     send a private message to Michelredcat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Michelredcat
What I am about to post below is incomplete, and others have posted more photos, and better instructions. I'm hoping that some of the info I am posting, ADDS to what has already been posted by others.

Here it is

I got my Fuel pump at FuelPumpfactory.com for $108 I paid extra shiping, cuz I needed it "yesterday" type of thing...

I heard some people have spent as much as $450 for a EOM fuel pump....it is not needed to waste $$ when the Wallbro that fits a Plymouth Neon is essentially the same as the prowler's except for the 2 electrical connectors that can be replaced easily!


Wallbro GCA761-2-255LPH

On the site this is what you are going to see
Notice the little red tool? it will be convenient later.

Please put a mark with a "sharpie" on the edge of the black plastic rim cover before you spin it open, this way you will know, how far to spin it close at the end., Now you need to unplug the 2 hoses, and electrical cable that leads next to Tranny fluid dipstick. See next pic

Unplug connector next to dipstick, being careful to release the red safety clip (but do not force out)

Then the following instructions have been posted by others. I forgot to keep taking pictures...

But one things I realized after the fact, is that little red tool...

Was supposed to be used to open/pry open the white cylinder, where the pump is housed into. I used 3 very small screwdrivers, and was afraid to "BREAK" the 3 plastic retainers/edges.... and I could have broken them, making the re-assembly of the pump into the cylinder impossible.... but it is only after the fact that I realized that the little red tool was supposed to be used to "PRY open" the pump out of the cylinder.

You will see when you reach this step.

Make sure you do not fill up your tank before doing this work, as when you open up the tank, (at pump location) fuel will leak all over the place. The Fuel pump cylinder will be full of Gasoline, and will be needed to be emptied. Once you have taken out the pump out of the "white cylinder", the hardest thing will be to get the proper wire connectors adapted to the new pump. But that is pretty easy. It is recommended to do a little soldering of your connection for "true"/ no fault electrical connection. OF COURSE, MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO GASOLINE AROUND, if you are using open flame "mini torch", or welding gun just to be extra safe.

Then, install fule filter, re-install pump into white canister, and then pump assembly into fuel tank.

I had to mess around with the rubber gasket that fits around the round cover on fuel tank... it kept coming off every time I began spinning cover closed. It can be tedious, and patience testing.

The cover is fairly tight/stiff to turn closed. Please put a mark with a "sharpie" on the edge of the cover before you spin it open, this way you will know, how far to spin it close at the end., so the 2 Hoses match the location of the top plugs, and you know it was tight enough from factory settings, and that you do not overtighten, and doubting yourself if it was not! the mark will assure you.

Then you car will start like a charm everytime!... it is such a great feelings

All of the above took me about 1.5 hours.

it is true that I had help from a Mechanics shop, But I did most of the work myself. The shop had the tool to open the Fuel tank for me, and one mechanic helped me with the "3 screwdrivers" to release the pump out of the housing, (not knowing about the RED tool), and also soldered the wire connectors for me with a "mini torch" the size of a BIC lighter, but I did the rest. Was fun.


Michel

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Michelredcat

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posted 03-03-2014 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michelredcat     send a private message to Michelredcat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Michelredcat
ed monahan

I saw your post a moment ago... and suddenly it disappeared including my 2nd of 2 part post that vanished..... including your post....I dunno what happened!

I had to cut and paste my last 2nd part again!

Mean Mesquite-o

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posted 03-03-2014 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mean Mesquite-o     send a private message to Mean Mesquite-o   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Mean Mesquite-o
Great post! The one thing you do have is the supplier and part numbers to buy this replacement pump. The other posts were vague or had old links. Great info!
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posted 03-03-2014 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
I re-posted it and that disappeared also. Strange, indeed.
Thanks for posting the pictures, that will surely help others in the future. Great job.
I think there is a square rubber gasket available now that makes the installation much simpler.
I have never done an installation but my first 99 Red probably needed that fix.
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posted 03-03-2014 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garysss     send a private message to garysss   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by garysss
Thanks for posting.
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posted 03-03-2014 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for padroo     send a private message to padroo   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by padroo
I also made a post that does not show.
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posted 03-03-2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quincy     send a private message to quincy   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by quincy
Always great to see a fellow member helping out others. My only mistake was cutting the wires right next to one another. In hind sight I would have staggered the cut (one high and one low) and then spliced so the ends could not encroach/touch upon one another.
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If you are very carful the plugin that is on the new pump can be removed and your old one installed not having to cut the Wires at all.. You will need to order the new style "O' ring as it is flat on both sides and will seal better than the old factory round one on the Tank Cap.. The one included in the kit is for the Neon tank and will not fit.. I buy them direct now from summit racing and the Turbo SRT 4 pump is what we use to feed the 5.0 V/6 Stroker engines that we put into the Prowlers.. If you type in Farmer Fix Fuel Pump on this great site I did a multy pictured display on how to do it.. Or you can go to the Milehiprowers.com site and it is also there under Prowler Fuel Pump..

This message has been edited by onecatnodog on 03-03-2014 at 07:42 PM

Michelredcat

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posted 03-04-2014 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michelredcat     send a private message to Michelredcat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Michelredcat
I just looked at link above for other pictures of Pump replacement
Lots of pictures from begin to end... on Milehighprowlers.com


here it is

http://milehiprowlers.fr.yuku.com/topic/33/Prowler-Fuel-Pump-Change#.UxYWMBZA-vI

Have fun!

Michel

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Mean Mesquite-o

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quote:
Originally posted by onecatnodog:
If you are very carful the plugin that is on the new pump can be removed and your old one installed not having to cut the Wires at all.. You will need to order the new style "O' ring as it is flat on both sides and will seal better than the old factory round one on the Tank Cap.. The one included in the kit is for the Neon tank and will not fit.. I buy them direct now from summit racing and the Turbo SRT 4 pump is what we use to feed the 5.0 V/6 Stroker engines that we put into the Prowlers.. If you type in Farmer Fix Fuel Pump on this great site I did a multy pictured display on how to do it.. Or you can go to the Milehiprowers.com site and it is also there under Prowler Fuel Pump..

Does anyone know where I can get this new style O-ring? I keep hearing about it but I never see a part number or a link on where to buy it. I want to make sure I get the right one. Thanks!

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It's a up grade avaiable thru the Dealer... I will check when I get home and get the Part Number off of the baggie that they come in... onecatnodog

This message has been edited by onecatnodog on 11-06-2016 at 07:19 AM

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posted 03-04-2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
O-ring part number 4581239. List is $13.80 but you might save some going thru one of our discounters. Then again, shipping may eat up any savings. This info was from a couple years ago. (Mickey, IDive post)

I am not positive that this correct. That is what I found doing a search. OneCat will post the correct one, whether it agrees with the above, or not.

This message has been edited by ed monahan on 03-04-2014 at 01:14 PM

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Read this thread.
http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002861.html
Mean Mesquite-o

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I was able to confirm the part number for the o-ring was 4581239. It cost me about 16 dollars on eBay with free shipping.
The other question I have is does anyone have a link to the cap removal tool? The other links I have found have dead link that go no where.
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posted 03-05-2014 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Several have said that they used an oil filter wrench and it worked fine. That would be quick, cheap and simple. You can find them at any auto parts shop or Wal-Mart type place if you don't have one.
I am presuming the spring steel type.
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What I bought and used:

At Autozone, or order from their website or store....probably not in stock at the stores but only takes a few days to get one... About $20

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http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/OEM-Fuel-pump-module-spanne r-wrench?itemIdentifier=110278


DizzysHotToy

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Just did the fuel pump install using the
Walbro pump. Had a little problem with the connections as they were loose and had to pull the pump and make them tighter. We should have checked for continuity before installing back in the tank but all is good. She is on the road again.
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posted 11-05-2016 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
Tom mills has a drop in pump

Not sure the cost but it is reasonable, call JEFFERSON auto from vendors here on POA if you need a pump.

I put the SRT 4 pump in mine many years ago. But why go thru the trouble when Tom has the solution.

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I had help with a mechanic and since the wire connectors were not exactly the same size, the mechanic suggested to "solder" the wires together. You surely do not want the connectors to come loose inside the tank and create an "arching" spark...

when the tank is full, the wires/connectors are submerged in gasoline, but when your tank runs on empty ( and i may be wrong on this) but i personally would not want a spark happen inside the tank igniting the volatile fumes!! and Kaboom!!!

Be safe, not sorry.

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quote:
Originally posted by Michelredcat:
I had help with a mechanic and since the wire connectors were not exactly the same size, the mechanic suggested to "solder" the wires together. You surely do not want the connectors to come loose inside the tank and create an "arching" spark...

when the tank is full, the wires/connectors are submerged in gasoline, but when your tank runs on empty ( and i may be wrong on this) but i personally would not want a spark happen inside the tank igniting the volatile fumes!! and Kaboom!!!

Be safe, not sorry.


In the thread I did on replacing the pump the correct connectors and crimp tool is listed.

For anyone wanting to use the SRT4 pump should get the connectors before removing the pump.

The thought of soldering them didn't spark my interest. If you pulled my pump out it looks factory.

But for anyone needing to change their pump might just want to contact Tom Mills for a drop in replacement.

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