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Ross L From:Eldorado, AR, US |
posted 03-21-2024 03:24 PM
    
Sorry, I may have gotten mixed up. It was McQueens classics in Deleware that attempted to sell car on consignment for the owner Gary. The name “scooter” is very familiar but I can’t say where he fits In with this car. |
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CaptainJackSpeed From:Memphis, TN, USA |
posted 03-21-2024 03:31 PM
Ross, The supercharger and especially the controller are interesting. I bet it runs great. It looks very cramped in there. The intercooler will do wonders for it |
RPL                      POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Rochester Hills, MI, USA |
posted 03-22-2024 08:27 AM
CaptainJackSpeed You worked with some of the best guys out there. Met Scooter when he was Chairman of SEMA. Last time I saw him was at the grand opening of the SEMA Detroit Garage. He reminded me he was the guy that started the SEMA Diamond Bar Garage. A truly nice guy. He did some cams for Prowler for us. I provided blanks. He ground them and we heat treated them back at the plant. An increase in plenum volume and stroker will help. Remember to capture your air outside of the engine compartment. Either a couple of small turbos or a supercharger would work. There's a Paxton on one of CJ's cars. You should be okay with the transaxle as long as you're not stupid and the one rule is never, never a WOT three to four shift. It's almost always fatal. The shifts are torque managed even in the stock condition to protect the transaxle. You reminded me. Did a set of ExtrudeHoned heads for an early project before we pushed it out to 5.0L |
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CaptainJackSpeed From:Memphis, TN, USA |
posted 03-22-2024 10:51 AM
RPL, you told me some things about Scooter I didn't know. He has done a lot for this industry. The last time I saw him and Dean was at the new Edelbrock warehouse in Olive Branch, MS just after Edelbrock bought them. I'd love to get that 4 1/8" stroke you speak of. That would be a powerhouse in a 4 valve engine. 4 1/8 stroke with 3 5/16 bore is one of the best flathead ford combos. |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 03-22-2024 04:11 PM
I wonder if our Prowler is lighter or heavier with Tom’s two piece fiberglass deck lid. There is a little more hardware for the deck lid to work. It’s definitely heavier with the hardtop on. I lost weight by getting rid of the run flats. When we were doing the drags during the Prowler Texas Stampede event I forgot to take chairs and other stuff out of the trunk. I ended up only losing to CJ because her reaction time was better off the tree than mine. |
Tomcal POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Long Island, NY, USA |
posted 03-22-2024 04:49 PM
From RPL... "You should be okay with the transaxle as long as you're not stupid and the one rule is never, never a WOT three to four shift". Solution..... http://www.altousa.com/downloads/tech-drawings/04-160-BM347.pdf |
Tony Goertz POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:Lucan, Ontario, Canada |
posted 03-22-2024 05:45 PM
Alto stopped making these many years ago... |
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CaptainJackSpeed From:Memphis, TN, USA |
posted 03-24-2024 02:32 PM
I looked everywhere for the Alto kit. Its not available.... The transmission guy said he can beef it up. I hope so. These are pix of my intake and the ports polished. A cutter was used to get rid of bulges, humps, and imperfections, not to mention the rough cast finish. Then sandpaper rolls. The bottom view shows the brass plug I threaded into the heater tube hole under the intake. These metal tubes rust out the last thing I want is to be stranded leaking coolant under the lower intake. An aluminum bung will be welded onto the neck and a hose rerouted around the engine. Will be looking for a spare set of heads pretty soon.
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Tony Goertz POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:Lucan, Ontario, Canada |
posted 03-24-2024 07:14 PM
What is transmission guy going to do? I bought the last sets Alto had years ago. Also couldn't find any distributor that had any kits. Kits came with wrong pressure plate anyway. Now.. would you like a set of extrude honed heads... |
mslc10 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Bulverde, TX, US |
posted 03-24-2024 08:12 PM
I’d like to see the Pacifica 9 speed transmission adapted to fit….. |
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CaptainJackSpeed From:Memphis, TN, USA |
posted 03-26-2024 05:37 PM
Tony We are considering this clutch pack https://www.raybestospowertrain.com/friction-clutch-packs/rht96-009-11 Torque Converter (Precision of New Hampton) The trans will be out and apart by Friday. Meanwhile the search continues for the best parts. |
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CaptainJackSpeed From:Memphis, TN, USA |
posted 03-26-2024 05:55 PM
Would love some extrude honed heads but it isn't in the budget at the moment. At some point I'll probably scrounge up another used transmission and strip it down. Then modify and build it up myself over time while driving my car. It would be great to have one set aside with no time constraint so that parts could be modified or even manufactured that would bulletproof it. Anything is possible. I am about to go into the manufacturing business on an unrelated invention and we are currently applying for a number of additional patents. That project has brought quite a number of new friends and business colleagues who could help or provide referrals if I needed to build better trans parts. True, the Prowler is a niche/limited market. But if we are collectively stuck with 4 clutch OD parts kits that will allow slippage that will shorten trans life or cause failures, then someone must do something. This rebuild will be a learning experience and I plan to be involved as much as possible with those doing the job. A finned Cast aluminum pan with a magnetic drain plug would be a good part to make. |
WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oldest kid in the neighborhood..... East side Indy, Indiana, USA |
posted 03-26-2024 08:48 PM
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Just have to be easy on Plain Jane Talked to Rick Allison owner of A&A Transmission in Camby Indiana. He is drag racer & builder of some of the best Chrysler transmissions but knows nothing about the one in the Prowler. Was hoping he might be able to improve over what is already in the car. Hopefully you can improve it more. ------------------
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CaptainJackSpeed From:Memphis, TN, USA |
posted 03-28-2024 07:56 PM
Food for thought. Jeep has a fairly new pair of engines out with turbo and direct injection. The 2.0L 4 cyl and the new 3.0L inline 6 twin turbo. I am not certain the inline six would fit in a Prowler. But the base has 420hp and the top model 550 hp. With two old Fords with supercharged V-8s, there is little interest on my end in a V-8 conv. Doing a lot of research into the 2.0L 4 cyl got me excited. 275 hp roughly above 5,000 rpm but the torque is better than the 3.5l: 295 @ 3,000rpm vs 265 for the V-6. With Etorque that goes up 44 hp and 39 ft lbs of torque. And there is a tuner controller that will add up to 45 more hp. https://bestcarsessex.com/chrysler-2-0l-turbo-gme-hurricane-engine It is an interesting thought. Torque is what counts. Anybody know more about the 2.0l Hurricane or 3.0L? |
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WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oldest kid in the neighborhood..... East side Indy, Indiana, USA |
posted 03-28-2024 08:50 PM
quote: Something I have thought of a long time A buddy has a 04 SRT 4 with stage 3 kit. He has run 11.86 in 1/4 mile & his car weighs 500 lbs more. Now a similar engine in the Prowler would be lighter than stock for good balance, plenty of room for everything & shouldn’t have a cooling issue. If it run in 11’s in a 500 lb heavier vehicle. Would think it could possibly be an 11 sec Prowler also His is basically plug and play parts for the stage 3, car is super dependable & consistent car. He gets 31-33 mpg driving to track with AC on. ------------------
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WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oldest kid in the neighborhood..... East side Indy, Indiana, USA |
posted 03-28-2024 08:53 PM
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Not interested in V8 swap But it is a fun car to drive…….. LOL ------------------
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Stray Cat  POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Dayton, Ohio, USA |
posted 04-02-2024 11:29 AM
Bob, so if I am reading all this correctly, gears, borla exhaust and Muffler, headers all offer SOME improvement along with Premium Gasoline. The neat Intakes made for these cars, plus hotter plugs do little if anything and, the Intake may actually DECREASE performance due to the Air being heated, especially if you have headers. Without nitrous, supercharger, etc, those three mods will increase performance somewhat. Again, I know with my past Prowler, it had gears, Borla and MTD intake and I always ran as I do now, premium. I could get some serious second gear scratches and if under 70 degrees and on concrete, the car could get seriously sideways. I outran quite a few cars red light green light. Including BMW's, Mustangs, Camaros etc. Red light green light, it was quick. 0 to 60 had to be under 5 with that set up. And it just sounded so good. Any bridge or tunnel resolulted in WOT just for grins. John This message has been edited by Stray Cat on 04-02-2024 at 11:30 AM |
cdeluca99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Patchogue, NY, USA |
posted 04-03-2024 06:01 AM
The main issue no one has mentioned is reliability. I feel that the 3.5 is definitely a very reliable setup. After my MSD try I think I might be getting to the point where I am happy with the mods I have done and am going to put some mileage on her now. Chasing your tail and spending stupid money for 5-6 rwhp gets old. |
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