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TucsonJer POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Tucson , AZ., USA |
posted 09-05-2024 02:28 PM
I took the Prowler in for and oil change this morning and ask them to check the front end steering assembly because it seemed I was having trouble with it wandering in the lane and I was always correcting when going down the road. The service advisor just called and said it looks like I need a new steering rack and there was excessive play in the inner and outer tie rods. I’m hoping someone might have information on how to find one. Dealer said they wasn’t able to find one from the factory or outside vendor. Appreciate any input I can get. Jer |
cdeluca99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Naples, FL, USA |
posted 09-05-2024 03:28 PM
Can it cross with something? Not the outer but the rack itself I believe is interchangeable with something? I don’t remember exactly, I’ll look again because I believe I saw something recently. Just curious how bad does it wonder? Check tire pressure and condition. How was the conclusion drawn to it needing a rack etc. how many miles, year? Just watching your back boss, want to make sure you ain’t being taken for a ride. How does your power steering fluid look? This message has been edited by cdeluca99 on 09-05-2024 at 03:30 PM |
johnstuttle POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fishers, IN, United States |
posted 09-05-2024 03:47 PM
Not knowing the details, which Chris eluded to, but I think you are being taken. If not good luck finding outer tie rod ends they are extinct. |
alrtg POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Westminster, MD, USA |
posted 09-05-2024 04:43 PM
Jer, While there is always a chance that the Dealer/ Service Writer / Parts Replacer think they are correct in their diagnosis, It is entirely possible that the Dealer/ Service Writer / Parts Replacer were trying to "Up Sell" work that may not really need performed in order to make more money on the job as they often seem to do. I suspect that they recommended replacing the tie rod ends, or entire rack and pinion assembly BEFORE they actually checked on the parts availability. I would also imagine they will likely start to "Back Pedal" their story at some point. My memory seems to recall prior discussions about tie rod ends from other vehicles that MIGHT work on the Prowler's but don't clearly recall the outcome of those discussions. Check Out these threads: http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003945.html ivegotsugar posted 02-10-2010 10:38 PM {Oops I've corrected the Phone #} Thanks Mickey ! Also the inner tie rod will be a different color than the original rod ...Its lighter in color " http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000019.html http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/005592.html Dano posted 10-27-2017 02:28 PM Inner Tie Rod ends: GaryE posted 10-31-2017 11:59 AM http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/005068.html ed monahan posted 08-24-2014 02:26 AM From an old post in 2002: This message has been edited by alrtg on 09-05-2024 at 05:11 PM |
Tomcal POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Long Island, NY, USA |
posted 09-05-2024 05:16 PM
quote: Excessive play of inner and outer tie rods and a bad steering rack are two different things. One or two tie rod ends maybe, tie rods and rack both, highly unlikely. Go to an independent shop for second opinion. Preferable one with a lot of front end experience like alignment shops/tire shops. If alignment guy is over 50 yrs, he knows what he's doing. As johnstuttle and Chris said, maybe you're being taken. Got to be careful of those stealerships. Info alrtg posted on tie rod ends is accurate. If my memory serves me, there is no interchangeability of rack with other cars. Someone posted way back that he found a shop that can rebuilt Prowler racks. Prowler rack is unique in way its manufactured and how seals are assembled. As a side note: Wife recently brought her car to stealership for oil change. They said she needed new brake pads and rotors on all four. Told her car was unsafe and can't be driven. Car has only 15,000 miles on it!!!! Checked pads went she got home. Had at least another 20-25,000 miles left, rotors like new. Conversation I had with Service Manager can't be printed. #@%&* This message has been edited by Tomcal on 09-05-2024 at 05:30 PM |
TucsonJer POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Tucson , AZ., USA |
posted 09-05-2024 05:48 PM
I really do appreciate all of your responses. I think I’m going to get another couple of opinions. It’s beginning to smell a little fishy. My car has 56K miles on it and I’ve had the lower ball joints replaced already. What’s really got me fired up is I found out today that their hourly rate is now $175 an hour. Their estimate for replacement of the rack is over a thousand dollars. I’m going to check with someone who specializes in front suspension work. I’m not going to jump into something I might not even need. I’ll keep you all posted. Jer |
Tomcal POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Long Island, NY, USA |
posted 09-05-2024 06:54 PM
quote: Good idea, Jer. |
padroo POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Chesterton, IN, USA |
posted 09-05-2024 07:10 PM
What I have done is take my car in just for a front end inspection and let them tell what is wrong. After they are done tell them what you were told. Good luck Jer. |
TucsonJer POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Tucson , AZ., USA |
posted 09-06-2024 02:07 AM
I have an appointment the 10th with another shop and I agree Padroo, I didn't say anything except I'd like them to check over my front end. I'm anxious to see what they say. |
onecatnodog From:Arvada, CO, United States |
posted 09-06-2024 03:38 PM
John(onecatnodog) has one, and like all of my parts I probably payed to much for it when I bought it 10 years ago, along with the power steering pump. But like I said, I do have a Factory Power Steering Rack with tie rod ends.. It could use some new boots on the tie rod ends as I put a small punctured in one of the rubber boots when taking it off a rear ended Prowler. I wanted to post a image of it but it's telling me I need to sign up... Interesting... John(onecatnodog) |
onecatnodog From:Arvada, CO, United States |
posted 09-06-2024 03:40 PM
Tried again to post but says I must register to post. |
onecatnodog From:Arvada, CO, United States |
posted 09-06-2024 07:50 PM
I give up.. It still won't let me post a image but lets me post words... Pictures are worth a thousand words.. Keeps telling me that.. "Your not logged in. You must register" John(onecatnodog) |
onecatnodog From:Arvada, CO, United States |
posted 09-06-2024 07:53 PM
NEXT..... |
Tony Goertz POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:Lucan, Ontario..., Canada |
posted 09-07-2024 07:07 AM
John - please try posting a picture in the TEST POST forum. It works for me .. |
onecatnodog From:Arvada, CO, United States |
posted 09-09-2024 11:07 AM
Doesn't work here either Tony. it will let me write something but not let me post a image. It's probably a good thing as my pictures are mostly Junk anyway. John(onecatnodog) |
cdeluca99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Naples, FL, USA |
posted 09-10-2024 05:56 AM
quote: Not too sure about that lol I seen some pretty good pics from you 😉 This message has been edited by cdeluca99 on 09-10-2024 at 10:30 AM |
onecatnodog From:Arvada, CO, United States |
posted 09-10-2024 09:39 AM
Your not the first person I have done that to.. It seems that we talked right before that when you called me to talk about my Project Car and as always I'm still hush about it. Slid the phone back into my pocket and it Butt Dialed You.. I have done it to others and they usually reach out to me in person and let me know and we laugh. I must say this is a first time to be informed online.. Never had a issue when I had my Star Track Flip Phone. But I like my I phone even if it has it's draw backs.. Sorry to you and others if I have let you into my life threw my back pocket.. But you must admit it, you listen to it to try to get more info on my project. Haha. I guess even if I wanted to share images of my secret project I couldn't post pictures of it here. Just tried again with the steering rack image and it says I need to be registered, or logged in. But that doesn't make sense as it lets me post. Gabe offered to post the image but it's not that important to get rid of it. If he needs it he can call me, not sure I want to sell it. John(onecatnodog) No Picture Included. |
cdeluca99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Naples, FL, USA |
posted 09-10-2024 10:29 AM
I apologize if it was a bad way to inform you. I figured you’d get a laugh out of seeing the messages. Hope all is well This message has been edited by cdeluca99 on 09-10-2024 at 10:29 AM |
TucsonJer POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Tucson , AZ., USA |
posted 09-10-2024 01:05 PM
Just brought the Prowler home from the shop where I took it for a second opinion. All I told them was I wanted them to check everything involved with the front suspension. About 45 minutes after pulling it in they came and told me everything was fine except for the vertical stabilizers were leaking grease from the top and should be replaced and the front tires either had flat spots or the tread could be separating. I ask if they noticed anything with the tie Rod ends or the rack and pinion and was told that they didn’t find anything wrong with them. I just ordered the vertical stabilizers from Spoons and I’m taking it into Discount Tire where I bought the tires and warranty and have them see if they need to be replaced. I’m pretty sure I won’t be taking it back to the Chrysler dealership anymore. |
cdeluca99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Naples, FL, USA |
posted 09-10-2024 03:54 PM
Dude! Awesome save! |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 09-10-2024 03:55 PM
Great move on your part. Glad it took a turn in your favor. |
TucsonJer POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Tucson , AZ., USA |
posted 09-11-2024 01:19 AM
I want to thank each and everyone of you for everything you all did to help me. Once again the POA family came to the rescue by offering information and your valuable suggestions that saved me a lot of money and keep me from getting screwed over by a dealership that only cares about making money. Jeff Wallis & Gary Knepper, friends like you are great to have! THANK YOU EVERYONE 🙏👏 |
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