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DublinOH![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:McMurray, Pa, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In March it was time to replace Katie's 2013 Toyota Sienna minivan. Much to my surprise, when asked, she said she wanted a Jeep- oh and it needs to be electric. To make sure I finally got her out of a minivan (22 years worth) I quickly made a few calls, talked to a few folks who I highly regard, and pulled the trigger on a 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE Summit. Eight months into the endeavor we couldn't be more pleased. Noah drove it to work and back (6 miles round trip) for the first few months until Katie returned from FL. He plugged it in when he got home and it was fully charged by the next morning. Basically ran in 100% electric mode throughout the week. No discernible increase in the electric bill. I do use the supplied type 1 charger and it does take 8-12 hours to fully charge depending upon battery levels when started. In e-saver mode on the highway it takes about 3 hours to go from no charge to fully charged. Its actually a little faster "off highway" as we use more regenerative braking. The vehicle is quiet, well appointed, and runs surprisingly well in hybrid mode utilizing both the 4 cylinder turbo gas and two electric motors. It's quick, not trackhawk quick, but pretty darn fast. The Jeep sits outside in FL and i had to purchase an extension for the charging cord. That just happened last week, so we'll see how that works out for Katie. All in all, a great vehicle. In my opinion, HYBRID is the way to go...for now. Fuel economy wise its getting about 30-40 mpge depending upon around town or highway. That's about 20-30 mpg better than the vehicle parked in front of it. This message has been edited by DublinOH on 11-01-2023 at 10:59 AM |
Tomcal![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Long Island, NY, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Tesla Model 3 vs. 2023 Toyota Prius Prime: Which Is the Better Starter EV? http://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-toyota-prius-prime-vs-tesla-model-3-highland-standard-range-comparison-test-review/?eml=organic:eml:brz:20231102:2023-toyot:article:print:owc st:mt&utm_source=braze&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=print |
Landscape Doctor![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pelham, NH, United States |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.instagram.com/reel/CzL2-U_NAHq/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== |
Tomcal![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Long Island, NY, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Above video is an experimental trial of backup generator in Australian Outback. Read the full story here...... http://www.drive.com.au/news/viral-video-diesel-generator-powering-nrma-ev-chargers/ |
garysss![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Baltimore, MD, United States |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() quote: I'm sure it won't run all the time, especially when no cars are charging, but I would bet if 4 cars are charging at same time it would running. If it has to run at all it is kinda defeating the purpose. |
Landscape Doctor![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pelham, NH, United States |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Gary they where only testing the generator,,, after the testing is complete it will probably never run again!!!!
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ed monahan![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Nothing like putting a generator in a place that will never need it!! lol Sounds like Congress is in charge of this project. I guess gas prices will go up again to make sure we can push those EVs, due to savings on operating costs for us peons. Create demand for EVs. |
Landscape Doctor![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pelham, NH, United States |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.instagram.com/reel/CyyvorNMuCu/?igshid=MXA3a3Q1NzZsb3UyYw== |
DublinOH![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:McMurray, Pa, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.ramtrucks.com/revolution/ram-1500-ramcharger.html An all electric RAM Pickup complete with a v-6 gasoline powered generator. At least you won't run out of juice or have to sit in the "Tesla" line at the charging station... This message has been edited by DublinOH on 11-08-2023 at 09:13 AM |
ALLEY CAT![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, Arizona, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() . . 1979 Coyote by VW.... first Cyber looking truck.
Sorry, should have posted this in the Tesla truck thread,, me bad This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 12-24-2023 at 11:57 AM |
ALLEY CAT![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, Arizona, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Not my opinion ..... just point//counter-point discussion: . . "Tesla's are unreliable, unsafe, don't have mileage and consumers are moving away" http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/tesla-s-are-unreliable-unsafe-don-t-have-mileage-and-consumers-are-moving-away-gordon-johnson/vi-AA1m7C6T?ocid=socialshare&cvid=51020d998e3a4f4 9b919981c70907701&ei=149 |
Dick Henry![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:South Padre Island, TX, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well we have a 2019 Tesla Model 3. No problems, seems to be as safe and reliable as any other car of those years. Yes mileage between charges could be better but here in S Texas we’re seeing Teslas from NY, California, Oregon, basically every state. I haven’t talked to any Tesla owner who was disappointed. Lots of Tesla / EV haters out there. You can find any type of news story you want now days. Just because some reporter reported something doesn’t mean it’s completely true. In my opinion we’re not ready for all cars to be electric but it is a good alternative for some people. Better batteries & longer mileage ranges will come in time. There are some great EVs and Hybrids out there. Keep an open mind. |
ALLEY CAT![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, Arizona, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Facts, from CNBC: . "Why used EV prices are falling...." . ------------------------------------------------------------ Unlucky Canadian new EV owner -----------------------------------------------------------
. This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 12-28-2023 at 10:13 PM |
Dick Henry![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:South Padre Island, TX, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This message has been edited by Dick Henry on 12-31-2023 at 12:25 AM |
alrtg![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Westminster, MD, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Dick, The only thing that hunk of whatever it is has going for it is that it is Silver. ![]() |
Dick Henry![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:South Padre Island, TX, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well I must admit the pictures don’t do it justice. It’s uglier in person. If you can just ignore the looks the state of the art technology & craftsmanship is amazing. It’s not a small truck. Right now it gets more attention than the Prowler. You can park it in the Wall Mart parking lot & you can find it. Just look for a crowd of people If you’re lucky enough to get one now there are people who will pay you far more than you paid for it. One day, not in my lifetime, this truck will be one of those rare collector vehicles. Tesla provided their engineers with these trucks for daily drivers. That way they could make changes & work out the bugs. I came across this truck at Buc-ee’s in Fort Worth, Tx. We pulled into the lot to charge Joyce’s Model 3. The driver was a Tesla engineer who worked at Tesla in California. He had driven to Florida to spend the Holidays with family. He was on his way back to California. It was really interesting talking with him. Would I buy one? If I could get past the looks I would. I’m still kinda not sure what it is I saw. 👀 I guess it’s kinda like a real ugly man or woman. Once you can get past their looks you find a heart of gold. 💛 |
ed monahan![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Smart move, stand next to it so you look better, in comparison. lol That thing reminds me of a tank, really. Not a fan at all. Surely they can come up with a much better looking body. I guess it is like the Hummer and people just want something that is different and draws attention. |
garysss![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Baltimore, MD, United States |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() quote: Dick you might get past it, but doesn't mean you want to take it home. LOL |
BeWare![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() quote: You asked for flame well here goes. First and foremost, gas powered cars were not being forced down our throats. They are actually trying to pass laws that will make gas powered vehicles illegal. Second EV’s are supposed to help the environment. What is the effect on the environment to mine all the materials to make the batteries. How are all the batteries going to be disposed off or will we have huge waste dumps full of batteries leaking who knows what into the earth. I could be wrong but I don’t think a gas powered car has spontaneously caught fire while parked. Maybe when it was being started or running. I saw a video the other day. If a gas powered car catches fire it can be put out with the water supply carried on the fire truck. If an EV catches fire they need acces to a water hydrant because the fires burn much hotter. What is the ratio of gas powered vehicles catching fire to the total on the road compared to the EV’s. Bottom line I have nothing against EV’s when we are ready for them. I just don’t want some whacked out bureaucrat telling me what I can and cannot be driving. Especially when their reasons for doing it are based on lies and misinformation etc. Let technology and its support structure evolve at a sane and safe pace as it has all through history. This message has been edited by BeWare on 01-01-2024 at 05:44 PM |
Landscape Doctor![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pelham, NH, United States |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Deleted,,,, might have been a bit harsh for some!!!! This message has been edited by Landscape Doctor on 01-01-2024 at 10:12 PM |
MDProwler![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallston, Md, Usa |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() quote: Rebuttal, lol As for laws by some whacked out bureaucrats..... Yeah, I kinda felt the same way with overturning Roe vs Wade but that's the way it works in the US. I won't be around to worry about it and we should be more concerned with what we leave behind for the next generation, not being selfish about ourselves. The younger generation is more embracing of this technology. That said we will all be able to enjoy our gas guzzlers for quite awhile yet. I see this as a 20-30 year changeover. Sources from car sights: EV vs ICE fires: https://www.kbb.com/car-news/study-electric-vehicles-involved-in-fewest-car-fires/ Recycling: https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a44022888/electric-car-battery-recycling/
Love Ya Rich, Happy New Year |
Landscape Doctor![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pelham, NH, United States |
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Dick Henry![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:South Padre Island, TX, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Gosh!!!!!! I must really look bad.👁️ |
Dick Henry![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:South Padre Island, TX, USA |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This car looks like every other high end sports car out there today. The only thing you can do is maybe change the body color. The only other thing you can do is enjoy the performance & that’s mind boggling. If your rich & into speed this is your car. I would like to drive one but it’s not really my type of car to own. Even though we own an EV, which is a great car, it’s just a generic, get in & drive car. It looks like every other EV out there. As a mater of fact all the cars look like every other car out there. My generation fell in love with the sound, the smell, the looks of a gas’s guzzling, oil leaking, fire breathing car that you could work on. You have to make a blood sacrifice or it wouldn’t run right. No fixing anything any more. You just replace the part that the computer says to replace. Well anyway enough of days gone by. I am however amazed of how fast these vehicles are. http://youtu.be/sF9xYtouZjY?si=LS-kX0bCPEa8Xw0F |
Landscape Doctor![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pelham, NH, United States |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Amazing car. The power and speed is mind blowing. More of a status symbol than anything else.
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