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posted 04-11-2007 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howard     send a private message to Howard   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Howard
Here is an update from Tire Rack concerning the module. 4/17/07

Hey Howard,

Got some more info for you regarding the TPMS module/receiver

’97-’01 TPMS module is part number 4815-227-AB…. Walk-in retail should be about $232

’02 TPMS module is part number 4815-227-AE…. Walk-in retail should be about $166

So if this conversion works, you could be saving $314, not including tax/shipping/etc.

As long as no extreme changes happened to the 2002 instrument gauge cluster or ECU programming, this could work. I have heard of people swapping TPMS systems in other Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge models, so I believe it is a fairly simple system to work with.

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Here is another response from Tire Rack. 4/ 16/07 The sensors cost is over $140.00 each. At $155.00 each, Tire Rack is doing the Prowler Club a great service by getting these sensors to us at this rate.


Please see the response I received from Scott concerning converting older Prolwers to 433MHz.

Scott is willing to Loan out four sensors to convert your Prowler to 433MHz. If it works you will have to pay for the sensor. If it doesn't just return the sensor. Scott would be willing to help us out.

It also seems that replacing the receiver could solve the problem. If I owned a Prowler, I would try it myself. The cost of the receiver was only about $200 online and The Tire Rack would be willing the loan out four 52088990AC sensors. If it works, buy the sensors. If it doesn’t, just mail them back. I’m sure the dealership would also take back a receiver you buy from them… It’s worth a shot.

If you have any other questions just holler.

Thanks

Scott Lakin | Product Applications and Development
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Here is an update to this post. I just received an email from my Tire rack representative.

On sensor # 4815-132-AB, the lowest I can go is $155.00

They are still extremely expensive (and have actually gone up in price) and the retail walk-in cost is still between $189-$204.

My Chrysler contact said he can get 700 sensors within a week, so about two-three weeks to get to you and your fellow Prowleronline.com club members.

I just read the thread you posted about the sensors, and I will look into the swapping of 433MHz receivers into the early models… That is actually a great idea, but no guarantees that it will work. What was different with the 2002’s? Any difference in ECU programming or instrument panel configuration?

Thanks


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I have been in contact with Schrader-Bridgeport concerning tire pressure sensors for the Prowler.

They had Tire Rack contact me, and here is the latest email I received from them. The good news is, if you have a 2002 Prowler the tire sensors are in stock for $35.00 each. The not so good news, if you have any other year Prolwer the tire sensors are different and the estimated cost for these sensors will be some where around $139.00 each. This price is not locked in concrete, but it looks like it is going to be close to that price.

I will keep everyone posted on the updated pricing.

email message from Tire Rack.


1997-2001 Prowler uses OE part number: 4815-132-AB….. My Chrysler contact went out of town this week and won’t be back till Monday, So I’ll wait until then to get you an up-to-date cost and ETA on the sensors

2002 Prowler uses OE part number: 52088990AC…. Retail customer cost is $35.00 each, and then the valve nut is $3.50 each. We have plenty of this sensor in stock.

The sensors are not the same, nor are they interchangeable. The 4815-132-AB sensor runs at 315MHz, while the 52088990AC runs at 433MHz. Both are made by Schrader.

FYI: no 1998 Plymouth Prowler

If you have any other questions, feel free to just email me directly. And I’ll get back to both of you on the 4815-132-AB part.

Thanks


This message has been edited by Howard on 04-17-2007 at 08:26 AM

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Thanks for following up on this Howard. I have a 99, and it looks like big bucks for me. Keep up the good work and let us know the final price when you get a chance!
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Originally posted by quincy:
Thanks for following up on this Howard.

My dealer mentioned a price just over 2 bills per sensor!

Thanks again Howard!

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Just curious - do you know how much the "2002 model" 433 MHz receiver costs? Would it be cheaper for 1997-2001 owners to replace the four transmitters and the receiver with the "2002 model?" If the new 433MHa receiver costs less than $416, it might be less expensive to replace both the receiver and all four transmitters (assuming that all of the four transmitters will have to be replaced at some point).
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Pasi, Do you read minds? I was thinking the same thing. If its cheaper to upgrade the whole system to the newer stuff that would be nice to know when the time comes for replacement or installing on aftermarket wheels.
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Man, the value of 2002 Candy cats just went way up. lol
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I recently bought and installed TPMS's for both my Durango and Ram trucks. For $200 it displays tire pressure, temperature and physical location of the low tire. It also displays battery voltage. It beeps when the tire gets low and a green LED turns yellow at one set point and red at another set point.

When the Prowler unit fails I will just upgrade to an aftermarket system.

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Please look at update above 4/16/07
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Please see latest update concerning sensor and module. 4/17/07
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posted 06-01-2007 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
$155 is a rip off for the old style sensor. Hope we can get a better price?

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What is the Part number for the new TPMS module for 2000+ Prowlers?

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Jeff Hunter @ the www.moparsupercenter.com will sell the Mopar 97 & 99 TPS for about $130 each...which is approx 10% above cost.
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Brian: GoodYear just replaced one they screwed up and wholesale was $214.00. I checked it out at my Dealer and they sold it to them and said the prices had been increased. This was for the 01.
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As happens a lot, I have a slightly different opinion. It seems like a lot of $$$ to me for little value. If you can't find cheap replacements for the tire sensors, why spend more money than a new tire would cost anyway? When was the last time anyone got stranded with a flat tire? Most have run flats, others carry plug kits and cheap compressors.

When I put aftermarket wheels on my Prowler, the sensors wouldn't fit. I just put a piece of electrical tape over the dashboard light and got in the habit of looking at my tires regularly when I was getting in and out of the car.

I realize many of you don't use your car as a primary vehicle and want to keep it "as good as new". As someone without unlimited monetary recourses to spend on my car, I just decided there were other things I could buy for the car with that much money.

I hope you all find a less expensive alternative.

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The sensors for the 2002 are only around $35.00 at Tire rack.


All other cars use the more expensive sensor.


I have been in contact with Schrader-Bridgeport concerning tire pressure sensors for the Prowler.

They had Tire Rack contact me, and here is the latest email I received from them. The good news is, if you have a 2002 Prowler the tire sensors are in stock for $35.00 each. The not so good news, if you have any other year Prolwer the tire sensors are different and the estimated cost for these sensors will be some where around $139.00 each. This price is not locked in concrete, but it looks like it is going to be close to that price.

I will keep everyone posted on the updated pricing.

email message from Tire Rack.


1997-2001 Prowler uses OE part number: 4815-132-AB….. My Chrysler contact went out of town this week and won’t be back till Monday, So I’ll wait until then to get you an up-to-date cost and ETA on the sensors

2002 Prowler uses OE part number: 52088990AC…. Retail customer cost is $35.00 each, and then the valve nut is $3.50 each. We have plenty of this sensor in stock.

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quote:
Originally posted by Howard:
The sensors for the 2002 are only around $35.00 at Tire rack.

All other cars use [a different] sensor.


That's consistent with my research:

quote:
Originally posted by GRROWL on 09-09-2002 (and several times since):
From "The Prowler Story" on the Home Page:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
August 2001
Prowler model year 2002 begins with Silver . . . . The run flat tire sensors
in each tire and the receiver are changed to match newer technology
used in other Chrysler products.
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Sounds like the system changed in August 2001 for the 2002 model year.

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Howard,

Great work! I am interested in the "old" sensors if they cost less then $50..... or I would like to attempt to update my TPMS module in the dash to the newer module. Can someone with 2001+ Prowler open the dash and get a Part # for the "new" TPMS module?

ONE thing to mention. I believe the old style sensors last twice as long (10 years instead of 5 yrs)? The base of the old style sensor is twice the size (two batteries) compared to the newer ones.

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OK - I will be the first to ask. If my tire sensors died, I would just pull the dash and cover the bulb with tape (or remove). 10 min job max..

Since I nurse my car, and check the air often enough. I don't think I need a "wife light" to tell me the tires are low on air.

Am I the only one that thinks that way about that sensor? Now, if it actually reported tire pressure like my vette did.. I could see the worthwhile of investing in new sensors.

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Binster,

Good Point...your thinking is surprisingly clear!

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posted 06-04-2007 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons

I removed the dash (easy to do) and I think I have located the TPMS module. I got two part numbers off the module:
2757 82150
4815227AB

I will try to confirm that this is in fact the TPMS module. If so I am going replace mine with a "newer" model if it is finacially easier?

Can someone confirm on a 2001+ Prowler if the TPMS has the same connector? The connector has six tiny pins that are in the shape of a six pack if you were looking down on it:
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PS - Popping of the top part of the dash takes 20 seconds. simpley grab the dash all the way up by the where the winsheild meeting the dash in one corner (by the VIN # plate on the driver side) and give it a slight pull. The one side will pop out...then do the same for the oppsite side. Might need the steerign wheel all the way down to get the dash out. It make the dash easy to clean once it's out.

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Ok....more info:

4815227AB is the part number for the Tire Pressure Module (TPM)for 1997-2001. The part number has been replaced by Part# 4815227AD. List Price $212

For the 2002 model the Tire Pressue Module Part# 4815227AE. List Price is $166 => Mopar Super Center POA discount price $109.

I will attempt to install the new 2002 Dynamic TPM in my 1997 to see if it works.... so stay tuned.

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UPDATE:

The new TPMS (Part# 4815227AD) does plug into the connector on the old TPMS plug. The new & the old untis are the same size and look the same (except for the Part#). I will post pics.

Now I have to see if the new TPMS will work with the on board computer....I have an appointment at the dealer tomorrow.

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I need one 02 tire sensor, please advise.
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It works!

The dealer was able to register all four TPS with the "new" style TPMS. Therefore, I suggest everyone with a 1997-2001 Prowler convert to the "new" TPMS (Tire Pressure Module Sensor) & TPS (Tire Pressure Sensor) when needed.

The new TPMS Part# 4815227AD is $109 from the Jeff Hunter at the www.moparsupercenter.com works with TPS Mopar Part number 4815-227-AE or Schrader-Bridgeport Part #20028.

Photos of "new" & "old" TPMS:


You'll need a 1/4" socket to remove the two screws in order to get the TPMS out of the dash:

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Good work Brian, thanks for the pics and info.Going to save us some bucks and update our cars.Beers on me when I see ya....Jon

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