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FMP POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Southwick, MA USA |
posted 10-25-2009 07:11 PM
Perhaps someone could help me with this. I took delivery of an 02 Prowler last night and immediately noticed the front left tire looked soft. Upon inspection I found that the inner valve stem had broken off. It appears to me there is a valve stem base screwed into the rim and then the actual valve stem screws into that base. It looks like I could put a socket or wrench on the base and unscrew if from the wheel but isn't there a pressure sensor on the other side? I have tried to extract the inner valve stem but have been unable to do that. It appears I would only need to replace that inner stem. Is that an item I can get at the local tire shop or auto parts store (it does not look like a standard valve stem to me)? Do I need to remove the wheel from the car? On a related subject, is it a bad idea to leave the car stationary (parked) on the runflat for a few days with no air or should I jack it up or keep moving it to a different spot? If it needs to be jacked up how should I place a jack under it? Thanks for any suggestions. Frank |
alrtg POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Westminster, MD, USA |
posted 10-25-2009 07:30 PM
If the car is completely original, the valve stems should be aluminum or metal of some sort with a nut to hold it in. The valve stem is part of the tire pressure sensor. Do some research here on this forum regarding valve stems/tire pressure sensors. When you dismount a Prowler tire I think the proper procedure is to let all the air out, remove the nut and allow the valve stem to fall inside the tire. This should prevent damage to the sensor when dis-mounting the tire. If I am incorrect, someone will respond here with their interpretation on what to or not to do. As far as the jack is concerned. I would suggest that you put it on the lift pad on the frame and only lift enough to get the tire off the ground. I would also suggest a rag or small piece of wood between the jack and the car if you are worried about scratching the frame. Do NOT lift the car by the lower control arm or try to lift under the center front part of the car. JMO I hope this helps. PS, Try this link. http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003077.html This message has been edited by alrtg on 10-25-2009 at 07:37 PM |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 10-25-2009 09:07 PM
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ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 10-25-2009 09:16 PM
Frank, it is kind of hard to diagnose what you are saying without seeing it. If you look at the other 3 tires, do the valve stems look the same ? Inside the rim there is a sensor and it is about 4 inches long, as I recall. There is a nut to hold that to the rim. Any tire shop should have a tool to remove the valve stem core. I carry one in my pocket and it is simply a small tube with a notch cut into it. That is what you need to take out the core. Any gas station or tire shop should give you one free. Leave the tire on the car and don't worry about harming the tire. Remove the old one and replace it and fill it with air. This message has been edited by ed monahan on 10-25-2009 at 09:21 PM |
FMP POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Southwick, MA USA |
posted 10-25-2009 09:40 PM
Thanks all for the info & tips. Looking at the sensor pictures from another post it is clear that the housing that the core is in is damaged (broken off). In other words the body of the sensor is broken. At this point I will try and obtain a new sensor and drive the car to the closest tire center which is about 6 miles. Unfortunately I believe the company that transported the car ran their tie down strap through the wheel and broke the valve stem/sensor assembly when they tightened the strap. There was a 2" wide mark through the wheel right at the location of the valve stem. Fortunately there does not appear to be any damage to the wheel. Thanks, Frank |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 10-25-2009 09:54 PM
jacking instructions are in the owners manual,the inner valve stem,any parts store,innerstems fit all cars.you dont have to move it. ------------------ |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 10-25-2009 11:19 PM
A new sensor will have to be "programmed" at the dealers. You cannot just insert a new sensor and you cannot switch them from car to car or even from wheel to wheel without setting off the sensor alarm. They have to be programmed. |
FMP POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Southwick, MA USA |
posted 10-26-2009 09:15 AM
The valve stem/sensor was broken off just above the nut so it definitely needs to be replaced. Even if I could remove and replace the valve core I do not believe I could get air in the tire. I stopped at the local Chrysler dealer this morning and they ordered a new sensor for me, it will be in tomorrow morning. Can I just have the dealer program the new sensor when I pick it up or do they need the car there to program the sensor with the receiver in the car? Thanks, Frank |
garysss POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Balto. Md. |
posted 10-26-2009 09:27 AM
Sensor needs to be installed and the car at the dealer to calibrate. |
FMP POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Southwick, MA USA |
posted 10-26-2009 12:14 PM
Many thanks for all the help, the car is scheduled to go to the local Chrysler dealer on Friday to take care several minor issues (including an open recall on the ball joints). I'll get the sensor programmed at that time. Frank |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 11-11-2009 01:54 PM
Frank, I had my TPMS's installed at Goodyear since my dealer did not have a runflat friendly tire machine. Some tire stores can "sync" the new TPMS to the on board computer; but your dealer can definitely can do it. You may want to think about replacing all four since they only last about 5 years. Most likely the dealer is going to charge you $100 to sync one sensor; probably the same price for all 4 sensors. Also a good time to swap the tires side to side since the tires will be off the rim. This message has been edited by spoons on 11-11-2009 at 01:57 PM |
FMP POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Southwick, MA USA |
posted 11-12-2009 07:20 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by spoons: "You may want to think about replacing all four since they only last about 5 years. Most likely the dealer is going to charge you $100 to sync one sensor; probably the same price for all 4 sensors. Also a good time to swap the tires side to side since the tires will be off the rim". Thanks for the tip. I don't know if mine have ever been replaced. Frank |
idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 11-13-2009 01:17 AM
My 97 was bought new and have yet to go out. The batteries in them are supposed to last 10 years. To swap sides you would need to make sure that the directional arrows are oriented properly. This message has been edited by idive on 11-13-2009 at 01:20 AM |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 11-13-2009 06:50 AM
idrive The 1997-2001 TP sensor are a Mopar part (Part# 4815132AB, list price = $224) and have 2 batteries in them so they last 2X longer than the 2002 models (Part# 52088990AC List Price = $70.95). Both TPS's are made by Schrader-Bridgeport. The 4815132AB sensor runs at 315MHz, while the 52088990AC runs at 433MHz. Bad news is the 1997-2001 are proprietary to Mopar (not sold externally). Besides the 1997-2001 TPS has been sitting on the shelf for 9 years. The good news for 2002model TPS is only $52 and there is plenty in stock. Here is a 1997-2001 TPM sensor:
4 x $53 (New TPS) + $115 (TPMS module) + $100 (dealer computer) = $427 4 x $224 (Old TPS) + $100 (dealer install) = $996 Therefore, converting to the "new" TPMS system saves a 1997-2001 Prowler owners at least $569 if not more!! This message has been edited by spoons on 11-13-2009 at 10:55 AM |
FMP POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Southwick, MA USA |
posted 11-13-2009 07:03 AM
The local Chrysler dealer charged me $116 for the sensor (p/n 5208890AC). That was for the part only and did not include any labor. Is there another source? Frank |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 11-13-2009 08:16 AM
What annoys me about these TPS is that the battery is sealed in the unit. Instead of buying a $5 battery you have to buy the entire sensor for $35-200!
Part # 28004 Ref: http://www.schrader-bridgeport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Item id=111 This message has been edited by spoons on 11-13-2009 at 10:57 AM |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 11-13-2009 08:21 AM
There is a guy on eBay selling TPS part # 28004 for $62 each. I will check with my buddy at a tire store to see what he can get them for. This message has been edited by spoons on 11-13-2009 at 08:22 AM |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 11-13-2009 08:36 AM
www.allusamotorsports.com 866-402-4480 2002 model TPS Part # 52088990AC 1997-2001 model TPS Part # 4815132AB Call today, part ships today! This message has been edited by spoons on 11-13-2009 at 10:57 AM |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 11-13-2009 10:58 AM
update info in the posts above. |
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