posted 09-28-2012 05:41 PM                  

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Originally posted by xtreme prowler:
Steve, once you get the first fitment done they will sell themselves

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I am sure your right,

I am all for doing it right, I wonder if anyone on the board here is local to me, 95403

posted 09-28-2012 05:49 PM                  

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Originally posted by GTS-R 001:
The OP has some stock prowler parts on the way,

the rears thread just like the Viper = No problem

the fronts are just Jeep shock = No problem, they look just like the Viper Koni's.

I have dealt with Motons, Penskes, KW's etc. for street and race cars, I can easily make a set for Prowlers.

There are not many cars out there that use threaded to cast aluminum horseshoe pieces for the rear like the viper and prowler do, this limits the gene pool so to speak and makes for expensive replacement parts, hence why your front shocks if you buy the jeep part can be had for $99 and why the rears are about $1000, add to that the fact that the stock springs are just regular "springs" not checked and tested race springs and that the stock shocks are not adjustable in height or dampening or rebound (maybe if they are the koni's but you have to take them apart and compress them and screw with them vs twisting a knob.

Suffice it to say, the solution is there, I guess we just have to see if there is a need at all.

Money back was a risk free way of saying, I take the risk, not you, it is not an admission of not knowing or experimentation, if the offer is not appreciated feel free to ignore it

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posted 09-28-2012 05:58 PM                  

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Originally posted by catfish:
if you tell me what the distance is from the top of shock to the bottom w/o fork,i can tell you if it will fit,a dealer will be of no help to you.just trying to help cause your shock for the rr looks to short.

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Your perception is dead on, those ones in the pict are my shorter ones, they are 9 inches from "fork" top to bottom of the spring cap, I also have 10" and 11" ones, so it will just be a matter of picking the right size shock for the job. I had a call form one guy that wanted to see if I could make some that would raise his front end so he doesn't scrape it so much, that is entirely possible as well, with the adjuster nuts you see there, with the right spring you can actually raise your car an inch, or lower it an inch.

I just booked my "appointment" to go look at that local prowler, Purple with 28K miles. I would like to "borrow it" for a day or 2 and install my coilovers I have here now on it.

posted 09-28-2012 06:15 PM                  

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posted 09-28-2012 06:21 PM                  

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Originally posted by catfish:
the rr prowler shock is 16 inches from top to bottom of shock not fork.do you have shocks that long.and whats the force of the rr.shocks in nm.

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I have them right up to 18 inches in actual extended spring length, the shock itself is more than 4 inches longer than that.

you want to know the spring rate in newton meters?

posted 09-28-2012 06:34 PM                  

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posted 09-28-2012 06:40 PM                  

Thanks for the pic, hell just ship me the damn thing, LOL

posted 09-28-2012 06:45 PM                  

The boards on the wall are 8" just to get an idea.

posted 09-28-2012 07:21 PM                  

This really helps,

posted 10-01-2012 10:12 AM                  

Measured a local car on Sunday,

The fronts coilovers I have already fit perfect. they are the exact same size.

The rears just need to be an inch longer for a stock ride height, the ones I have now are perfect for a 1" or less lowered car.

Now I just need a "fork" to verify that the thread used is the same as the vipers, Dodge changed the thread in 2003 on the vipers, probably to make sure they used the right parts, a failsafe for stupidity probably.

Anyone have a fork?

posted 10-11-2012 09:02 AM                  

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Originally posted by RPL:
Any updates?

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Larry Loyd has sent me some rear forks to use t verify that all is correct, we should be able to start shipping coil-overs to those that want/need them in about a week

posted 10-11-2012 11:43 AM                  

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Originally posted by beachcat:

The boards on the wall are 8" just to get an idea.

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posted 10-11-2012 12:01 PM                  

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Originally posted by 1buddyc:
Beach, when did you stop by my Garage and measure my siding??

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LOL,

Buddy, I fly back this weekend, I'll give you a call when I touch down

posted 10-11-2012 12:24 PM                  

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Originally posted by 1buddyc:
Beach, when did you stop by my Garage and measure my siding??

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posted 10-30-2012 10:08 AM                  

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Originally posted by 1buddyc:
I compared the Prowler and Generation II Viper shocks (1996-2002) and right off the bat I could see that the Viper Fork is a lot wider at the base compared to the Prowler Fork. The Viper Shocks are the dreaded Dynamic Suspension Shocks too.
Both sets of Shocks appear to be about the same height. I didn't disassemble to see if the Viper Shock will fit into a Prowler Fork though..

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Buddy,

The Gen 2 Viper fork is different than the Gen 3/4 fork as well, the threads are different as well (i.e. gen 2 req different than gen 3/4), the main point is that I make shocks that can fit in a fork like the prowler shocks do.

Most coil-over manufacturers do not do this for such a limited market, but from what I have seen, if anyone needs new coilovers just give me a call and we can get you set up with complete adjustability and a fair amount of bling vs the stock look.

posted 10-30-2012 11:04 AM                  

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Originally posted by RPL:
Have you completed an installation on a Prowler? Did the rear shock that Larry Lord provided confirm the fit and ride height.

My concern is that as provided that they will have the stock ride height both front and rear. A bolt-in installation is important. The height adjustability is a plus.

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The coilovers are height adjustable, so you can set them at stock ride height, you can lower your car or you can actually set it higher than stock as well.

They will be a direct bolt in, you will just have to remove your forks from your stock shocks and bolt the forks on these new shocks.

ride should be much improved as these also have dampening and rebound adjustability as well

posted 10-30-2012 12:19 PM                  

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Originally posted by 1buddyc:
Steve, so basically you are saying that you can provide some sort of a replacement Rear Shock that will screw into a Prowler Fork (not a stock Viper Shock since it wont screw into a Prowler Fork), a Spring that is adjustable and some sort of upper Spring Retainer that will make the Shock ride height adjustable? Is that the way I am reading your statement?
Also, will your Shock come with the correct Bushing at the top, to allow the Shock to be bolted back into the Prowler? What is the Brand Name of the Shock you propose to provide?
If we ship you a pair of our stock Prowler Rear Shocks, do you make the retro fit and them ship us back a complete pair of Shocks, ready to bolt in? Or do we just use the parts you provide and retro fit our own?
My questions are for Prowler Rear Shocks only.

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Hi Buddy,

I can easily switch your forks to the new shocks, the shocks/coil overs are the exact ones in the pics I posted. The upper mount will fit and has a spherical bearing at top versus a rubber mount fitting. the shock itself has a couple of adjuster nuts that allow you to adjust the lower mount point of the spring which will either raise or lower the ride height of the car.

The "toughest part is switching the forks, after that it is a simple bolt on, if you adjust your ride height an alignment is recommended to keep your car in factory spec.

posted 11-14-2012 07:47 PM                  

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Originally posted by GTS-R 001:

Larry Lord has sent me some rear forks to use to verify that all is correct, we should be able to start shipping coil-overs to those that want/need them in about a week

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Larry Lord is VERY unhappy!
Larry Lord sent a complete rear shock assebly to a person that will now not return his phone calls. He never even bothered to call me to let know the item arrived. I had to check the tracking to find out for myself that it did indeed get there.

I was trying to help not only Steve (the vendor) but also the members of this site by sending, at NO COST to the vendor, not even for the shipping cost, a pefectly good used rear shock assembly.

Larry Lord now feels like a fool and will probably never send another item to anybody without full payment for the part and shipping cost in advance.
It's too bad that the person has chosen to handle things this way. He could have sold a lot of parts and made a lot of money.
At this time and until further notice I suggest that everybody on this site use caution in any dealings with him.

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