posted 09-27-2012 09:44 PM                  

I noticed the other day that the Prowler uses the same coilovers as the Gen 2 Vipers.

I put these together for the Viper guys, they have always been looking for a reasonably priced set of adjustable coil overs. These coil overs are ride height adjustable and have dampening and rebound and height adjustment on the fronts and dampening and ride height adjustability on the rears. These coilovers also weigh much less than the stock coilovers as well

These will be a perfect fit in the prowler and I use only super high quality Eibach race springs, which allow me to pick exact spring rates to tailor the ride (softness) to what the owner prefers. I can pick spring rates in 50 lb increments

Here are some pics and another pic with all the features, for the Vipers I have regular length coilovers and coilovers that are and inch shorter to ensure that for the guys that want to lower their cars, they have the the shocks operating at optimal stroke height

Marked up

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posted 09-28-2012 11:54 AM                  

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Originally posted by xtreme prowler:
The price is certainly right... How many Prowlers have been fitted with these ?

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None yet, but let me hit you with the logic

All prowler coilovers are Dodge Viper coilovers (shared)

These coilovers are built to fit the Dodge Viper

These coilovers will fit the prowler, there is no way they cant

The only variable will be to determine the spring rates required to give the best ride, the dampening and rebound and ride height are all user adjustable

The Prowler probably rides so stiff because Dodge probably put the exact same coilovers in the prowler that they put into the viper, 225 lb front springs preloaded 3 inches to a 675 static spring rate and rear 425 lb springs preloaded 1.5 inches to a similar static spring rate of 638 lbs approx.

I will offer a full money back guarantee to anyone that tries these to get the ball rolling.

If anyone can take a caliper and measure the exact thickness of the springs they have in their prowler, I can approximately determine the spring rate in the cars now. Dodge pretty much use the same spring manufacturer on all the viper/prowler lines so the "spring" rate is pretty much linear to the thickness of the spring coil.

posted 09-28-2012 12:31 PM                  

Up front we can do the same, only up front we have rebound control as well which gives us another 6 settings, so 66 options up front compared to nothing now.

Another nice thing is that since these springs are not preloaded (a niceway of saying they took a 13 inch spring and squeezed it into a 10 inch space on the coilover) the springs I use are 8 inch race springs, they look way nicer and are the rate they are marked. so to swap out springs it is a simple unbolt the coilover , slip off the old spring and slip on a new spring.

Just like with the vipers there will people that want a racier ride and people that want a softer ride, both scenarios are just going to be a matter of picking the ride spring and selecting the right settings

posted 09-28-2012 01:15 PM                  

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Originally posted by xtreme prowler:
Don't want to hi-jack the thread but would like to hear what you think of a Twin Turbo on the v6 Prowler... good bang for the buck ?

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It would depend on the rods and pistons in the engine. I would not be surprised if we could make a real screamer out of a prowler with some properly sized Turbos

posted 09-28-2012 02:55 PM                  

the rears thread just like the Viper = No problem

the fronts are just Jeep shock = No problem, they look just like the Viper Koni's.

I have dealt with Motons, Penskes, KW's etc. for street and race cars, I can easily make a set for Prowlers.

There are not many cars out there that use threaded to cast aluminum horseshoe pieces for the rear like the viper and prowler do, this limits the gene pool so to speak and makes for expensive replacement parts, hence why your front shocks if you buy the jeep part can be had for $99 and why the rears are about $1000, add to that the fact that the stock springs are just regular "springs" not checked and tested race springs and that the stock shocks are not adjustable in height or dampening or rebound (maybe if they are the koni's but you have to take them apart and compress them and screw with them vs twisting a knob.

Suffice it to say, the solution is there, I guess we just have to see if there is a need at all.

Money back was a risk free way of saying, I take the risk, not you, it is not an admission of not knowing or experimentation, if the offer is not appreciated feel free to ignore it

posted 09-28-2012 03:33 PM                  

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posted 09-28-2012 05:19 PM                  

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Originally posted by 1buddyc:
Steve, do you have any news for me? -Buddy Collins.

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On its way Buddy!

You have to shoot me some pics of those steering wheels!

posted 09-28-2012 05:39 PM                  

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Originally posted by catfish:
i dont know what makes you think that prowler and viper shocks are the same they arent.prowler shocks rrs have 12 coils.whats the length of your shock w/o the fork how many inches.whats the compression rate in nm of your rrs.

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Its not really the # of coils, its the coilovers them selves, the fact that you count 12 coils, just means that Dodge used very low spring rate springs in the back, probably 250 lb per inch and preloaded them , your springs are probably 14 1/2 inches long when removed from the coilover and the distance the shock is from the top to the top of the fork (when installed) is probably close to 10", the distance from the bottom of the removed shock to the bottom of the spring cap is probably ~12.25 inches.

I am going to look at a local prowler tomorrow and get a good read on what's what and get some detailed measurements. It looks to me that Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler actually put stiffer springs out front than they did in the back, but I will verify that tomorrow.