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Prowler Performance/Appearance Discussion Ever See A HEMI Prowler Bell Housing (Page 1)
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moparmania Prowler Junkie From:Winnipeg Manitoba Canada |
posted 02-21-2003 10:27 PM
This is What It Takes To Stuff A Hemi In . An Adaptor is being made to attach the drive shaft to the flywheel . Ill post pictures when it is done. This message has been edited by moparmania on 02-22-2003 at 08:36 AM |
jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 02-21-2003 11:21 PM
Very interesting,, ------------------ |
dpena POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Visit Dan's Prowler Excitement Personal ScrapBook From:San Jose Ca Santa Clara |
posted 02-22-2003 12:10 AM
WOW! I thought this was a joke but appearantly it is not... More power to you Later... ------------------ |
Laddie Roussel >POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Hester, LA. USA |
posted 02-22-2003 05:49 AM
Moparmania. Thanks for the update... And, keep us updated on the process... Terrific project... ------------------ |
Al's Prowler Prowler Junkie From:DeWitt, Mi |
posted 02-22-2003 05:53 AM
Without a doubt you'll have the most interesting Prowler around, when do you think you'll have the car completed? Al |
Kraut POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Plymouth, MI |
posted 02-22-2003 07:18 AM
Very shallow bell housing. Where's the clutch or torque converter go? Are you going manual or automatic? Where are the bolt holes to connect the tranny? Wow ..... this is gonna be cool. |
Al's Prowler Prowler Junkie From:DeWitt, Mi |
posted 02-22-2003 08:09 AM
quote: The tranny and torque converter are in the rear on a Prowler. Al This message has been edited by Al's Prowler on 02-22-2003 at 08:10 AM |
Kraut POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Plymouth, MI |
posted 02-22-2003 08:11 AM
Duh ........... That's what happens when you talk before you think. |
Al's Prowler Prowler Junkie From:DeWitt, Mi |
posted 02-22-2003 08:15 AM
quote: Well, at least you're thinking, some don't even do that. |
moparmania Prowler Junkie From:Winnipeg Manitoba Canada |
posted 02-22-2003 08:30 AM
Kraut the prowler drive shaft bolts directly to the crankshaft , through an insulator , The trans and tork conv. is at the back. I am attempting to copy this setup . The shallow bell housing is only narrow enough to house the flywheel & starter .This allows me to get the motor as far back as possible to allow radiator clearance.An aluminum mount will be welded to the lower rear bell housing area to rest on the stock prowler mount. Right now with the engine sitting in place the new bellhousing almost touching the rear crossmember , the water pump pulley on the hemi is 1 1/2 inchs from the rad . This is not good . I cant run a clutch fan which would be the ultimate way to go . A front mounted shroud & pusher fan would have to be fabricated. The prowler rad will not work the filler necks are on opposite sides and way to small . I suppose I could move the rear crossmember back and cut and smooth the firewall a couple of inches , but their is no way i am going to wreck this car . If this cant be done without butchering the car Ill bail out and either Sell The HEMI Engine , or stuff it in my 55 Dodge convertible .Then probably supercharge the cat and some Gears.... The HEMI is a few inches narrower than the 3.5 so this is no problem ,lots of room for headers . The brake booster will have to be removed to change the left rear spark plugs , but isnt this what we had to do with our old hemis to change a valve cover gasket This message has been edited by moparmania on 02-22-2003 at 08:42 AM |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 02-22-2003 08:55 AM
Even with more obstacles to overcome, it sounds like it is at least feasible for you to fit the HEMI in the kat - that's great. I hope you can solve the radiator problem. How do you plan to deal with the engine controller unit communicating with the tranny computer? Good luck - it will be fascinating to read of your ongoing progress. ------------------ |
moparmania Prowler Junkie From:Winnipeg Manitoba Canada |
posted 02-22-2003 09:13 AM
Marty Im not worried about the electronics Ive done lots of fuel inj computer changeovers to older vehicles , but the computer and harness is worked out by Street & performance in Arkansas for you . I just wanted this to be an at Home in my garage project like my other cars. I am not rich and I suppose if a person had the cash he could send it to a fancy chassis shop and say fit this in here Ill pick it up monday ! I would love to be able to do that cause that HEMI belongs in the PROWLER !! |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 02-22-2003 09:36 AM
Your "at home in the garage" projects are a little different from mine. For me, installing a new tach, putting on a new rear roll pan, or padding and covering the console lid are "at home projects"! I agree that the HEMI belongs in the Prowler. It will be awesome when you finish. |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-22-2003 09:59 AM
Looks like you're moving along nicely. Have you read the Prowler manual and seen the amount of interaction between the 3 computers? I come from the relative stone age of hot rodding and was amazed at the place that technology has gone to! The more I read, the more my jaw dropped. It took an amazing person or group of people to put together the programming needed to operate our vehicle. Hat's off to them. I hope your guys have the same savvy to make this project possible for you. I think it will need more then plug and play....but what do I know? |
Kraut POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Plymouth, MI |
posted 02-22-2003 10:57 AM
Moparmania, you are taking on a lot more than most would do in garage project. How/where did you get the special bell housing made. This certainly isn't a typical garage made part. I built a kit car many years ago, where I fitted a 5 liter Ford V8 into a space designed for a four banger. I also had to mount the fan in front of the radiator, and had to cut away at the firewall to make it all fit. Good luck and keep us posted. |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 02-22-2003 11:48 AM
I am very impressed so far. I hope you can make this work. Did you by any chance take pictures with the hemi sitting in place? Good luck. |
Koastal Cat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego, CA. |
posted 02-23-2003 09:32 AM
This sounds like an awesome project that I could only dream about. I hope when completed Hot Rod magazine does a cover story on the your project. Plus, I hope you can then take a long vacation and tour America, I could probably name at least 11,000 people that would love to see your work of art in person. Please keep us posted! - Kcat |
Koastal Cat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego, CA. |
posted 02-23-2003 09:33 AM
What is the difference in weight between the Hemi & the 3.5L Engine? - Kcat |
Bob Hacker POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:McHenry IL USA |
posted 02-24-2003 02:40 PM
moparmania, Keep going, show pictures of your problems, we might have an answer. The way you did the bell housing shows some good thinking please keep it up. Bob ------------------ |
JUST JP POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Navarre, Florida, USA |
posted 02-24-2003 05:41 PM
Moparmania, It's probably been stated before, but... you pull this off, you'll have a LINE waiting for ya. ------------------ |
onaprwl POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:covington,louisiana,U.S.A. |
posted 02-25-2003 01:25 AM
Moparmania, You have stolen my idear. I just don't have the garage to do it in yet. Still working on that. I have put two blowen motors in cars in the past and I am still looking forward to trying it with a prowler. I hope you are changing the rear end to a cut down racing rear or at least the one in the C5 corvette. If not the one in the prowler will never take the torque. I was going to try putting a hemi with a regular belhousing and short transmission set up to a cut down racing rear with very short driveshaft.If the measurments for this would not fit then go with what you have with the corvette C5 rear set up. Well glad to see you are at it first. Please let me, and all of us know how things work out. GOOD LUCK! ------------------ |
CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 02-25-2003 06:00 AM
quote: Should be interesting to see if this can be accomplished. When I was working the Plymouth Prowler Road Show back in 1997, probably the most asked question was why Chrysler didn't put a V8 in the car. The Chrysler engineeers told me that the answer to that was the transmission was already at torque capacity and that it could not handle a V8! This message has been edited by CJ on 02-25-2003 at 06:01 AM |
Scotty POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:West Frankfort, Illinois, USA |
posted 02-25-2003 07:33 AM
to you. Hope you are making templates. Keep us posted ... there are a lot of positive thinkers on this page that can help and a lot who like myself would like to be doing what you are doing. Scotty |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-25-2003 12:12 PM
CJ, if the tranny was already at torque capacity, I guess I really pushed it with the 460 ft lbs at the rear wheel that I got with the max boost setting.I'm guessing their main concern was being able to handle the power at full throttle shifts in to 4th. I think thats what caused the most tranny failures so far. |
CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 02-25-2003 04:35 PM
Don't know, Al.....just telling you what they told me to give as a response to the question! |
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